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u/SunnSaiyaan 15h ago
Far more scary is when you know he was just an employee in the game.
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u/Edgezg 15h ago
Not even a top ranked employee either.
Epstein was just the facilitator. He got his black book of blackmail from someone.
The real evil is still out there....doing what they did on his island.
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u/Optimal_Cow6108 13h ago
Yeah, it’s in Tel Aviv. Epstein clearly worked for Israel.
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u/Fit_Amoeba3431 12h ago
Can I get some links to further my knowledge of this? I havent heard of epstins big bad boss until just now
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u/dopestdopesmoked 9h ago
Wexner and the Rothschilds openly said Epstein worked for them. Rothschilds were an integral part of the Balfour declaration, deciding either Argentina or Palestine for the Jewish state. Rothschilds also orchestrated the Havaara agreement, moving tens of thousands of European zionists to Palestine before the holocaust.
You can find a video of Wexner saying this and his lawyer whispering to him "If you answer with more than 5 words again, I will kill you."
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u/MedonSirius 15h ago
He was just not careful enough, aka got caught. There are thousands out there who are at LEAST so, if not, even worse
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u/Oaknuggens 14h ago edited 13h ago
As Alex Acosta explained as the rationale for why Epstein's first charge was lowered from child sex trafficking to soliciting prostitution, Epstein "belongs to intelligence." There are only a limited number of criminals that it's confirmed intelligence agencies use, and thus protect, like Ghislaine's father Robert Maxwell, the known double (maybe triple) agent for the UK who was buried in Israel with state honors after mysteriously drowning from his yacht without any witnesses.
Criminals as prolific and well-connected/protected as Epstein are not so just because they previously managed to carefully evade; they are a lot more unique and demonstrative of very long-term, systemic, extreme Government corruption (as opposed to everyday random criminals like you're suggesting, like the recently discovered Raymond Horsch crimes in Philly).
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u/Dependent-Chart5835 14h ago
I wonder who is doing the redacting? 🤔
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u/Intrinsic_Idiot_3076 14h ago
- grunts who can't afford to get fired and not have enough dignity and conscience to quit.
- Supporters who wish to join with enough good graces from the dear leader (lol)
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u/Dependent-Chart5835 13h ago
Who are the leaders directing them? Who could be at the head of government not releasing the files? 🤔
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u/Aromatic_Tiger_2840 15h ago
Sad to say that there's more people like him out there and politicians know them
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u/FizzgigsRevenge 15h ago
Keep in mind that all that black is covering up for Trump and his buddies.
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u/El_Capitan_182 14h ago edited 14h ago
Another type of evil are the so called Type 3 atheists.
- Type 1 atheist are those who are chill like me and most atheist in general; we do not care what others believe. We simply do not believe in gods.
- Type 2 atheist are the militant ones who oppose anything religious!
- Type 3 atheists are the most dangerous of all because they actually pretend to be religious to scam those who actually believe. Type 3 atheists know that religious people are obedient. So, these type 3 atheist pretend to be Christians to deceive you and collect easy tithes from believers!
As a child I thought that anyone who preached about Jesus was a good person, but now I see the world for what it is. There are type 3 atheists who disguise themselves as religious leaders just to scam the believers!
In fact, the bible is full of these warning about these people who disguise themselves as apostles of Christ just to scam those who believe!
Romans 16:17-19 "Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple. For your obedience has become known to all."
2 Peter 2:1-3 "But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies.... and many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words;"
These kinds of evil people are hidden behind a mask because they disguise themselves as apostles of Christ and people fall for their trickery!
2 Corinthians 11:13 "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ."
Protestantism and politics are full of these scammers and fraudsters who are type 3 atheists but disguise themselves as apostles of Christ!
Most of us atheist are good folk and we are type 1 atheists. Those who are evil, scammers, deceivers and fraudsters are the type 3 atheists who use religion to scam control and deceive!
All a type 3 atheists politician has to say is that he is a christian; that instantly and automatically wins the favor of those who believe! Its as easy as that because the bible says "your obedience has become known to all!"
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u/rif011412 10h ago edited 10h ago
Id like to redefine evil heee.
1) There is the fictional evil, which is what your religious fraudsters use to manipulate their followers. Its classifying people by their tribal affiliation, and calling outsiders evil. One of the worst things religion does, is it teaches people to be tribal, to be afraid of the unknown/other and those who are different. The reason evil often takes the image of a demon or devil with scaled skin, forked tongue, deep unsettling eyes or glowing… is because in a fictional world, evil is something you cannot identify with, something strange or bizarre to what you want to be “normal”. Its why conservatives in the USA label LGBTQ evil, foreigners evil, POC evil, rebels evil, liberals evil.
2) Real evil, non fiction evil, is selfishness that knowingly hurts others. Murder, rape, torture, genocide, oppression, fraud, theft … these are real evils. These are actions taken by an individual or group to benefit themselves emotionally or financially. Real evil is selfishness that hurts others.
Define evil by the actions perpetrated by the evil doer. Not by the group you identify them with. This is the problem with conservatism and all of our society. For example Republicans labeling Mamdani a terrorist because he is Muslim, is how conservatives define evil. We should be judged by our character and actions, and how our selfishness is inflicted on others.
Frankly, most tribalism and most religious people are the Evil in the equation. When they put their selfishness above others they are the source of the real evil in the world.
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u/WindowOne1260 13h ago
What level athiest is someone who wakes up in the middle of the night and God tells them the time? They wake up at 2:43 in the morning, god tells them it's 2:43 in the morning, and then they roll over and the clock says 2:43. And they use this ability to sell Irish Sea Moss.
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u/Tagalong4 14h ago
"As an atheist" gang your comment history
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u/El_Capitan_182 14h ago
I am a type 1 atheist. I am interested in religious debate and I actually study the bible just to refute protestants sects because its easier to refute them with Christianity! Protestantism is plagued with type 3 atheist who use the christian religion for their own gain. They use it in politics too!
The people should know about this, and it is up to us type 1 atheists to refute the protestant sects who are being used by these type 3 atheists to scam and even win elections!
Its time we type 1 atheists star using Christianity to refute the protestant sects and their founders!
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u/Oaknuggens 13h ago edited 13h ago
You're a clown for soap-boxing your already adequately widespread Reddit atheism on this post and thread about the Government (across multiple administrations) actively protecting and enabling a large scale child sex trafficking operation with apparent ties to Government intelligence agencies.
If there was ever a time for you to not live up to the negative "as an atheist" that always must let everyone know stereotype, a completely unrelated discussion of child victims would be the time and place.
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u/Euphoric_Try_9005 7h ago
That would mean all religious leaders and preachers except ones with actual delusional disorderd.
Every person healing in the name of god knows it doesnt work( except ones with actual delusional disorders)
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u/GreasyToken 14h ago
You're goddamn right.
Christ spent an outsized amount of his rhetoric condemning religious hypocrites in particular.
My boy JC would be having a fucking field day in 2026!
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u/Luminous_Winds 11h ago
People who believe in religion can also use it to manipulate others. In fact, the main point of belief is self-delusion, which results in a need for validation. It's very common for parents to push their religion onto their kids because of this, which is known to cause a whole slew of mental health problems for the children.
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u/onwisconsin1 6h ago
Maybe they shouldn't be such obedient dunces. Then they wouldn't get taken for a ride.
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u/irrelevantusername24 2h ago edited 2h ago
Similarly, people who claim to be following or enforcing the law while doing exactly the opposite. That is achieved by focusing on the letter of the law, rather than the spirit of it. Which is, actually, literally the entire regime under which we are ruled. The whole thing. All of them.
The entire legal and financial establishment operates under this logic, which eventually results in the same thing it did when the Nazis used the logic. Because if they operate under "the text" of the law, rather than the spirit, what that means in reality is they are pretending the text itself can understand context. But it can't. And so they are pretending to be an entirely unthinking observer, and blaming text for what they in fact are deciding.
When you are violating biblical/religious text*, science fiction** and science fact*** all in one, you know you've fucked all the way up.
\ the letter killeth, the spirit quickeneth (gives life))
\* Asimov's Laws of Robotics)
\** IBM training manual from 1979 which says the same thing as the most important of Asimov's Laws)
The entire world is operating under Nazi logic.
And its even worse, because not only does this happen with laws and money, where people blame "the system" (laws, credit scores, whatever) for what they are in fact deciding... go a step further, and you can understand even better how this doesn't make sense, because a normal person would interpret those things differently, because all people have inherent dignity which means a right to the basic necessities and to be able to control their own life and circumstance (to some degree). But where this goes off the rails, is in things like computer "terms and conditions" where literally what it says is not what is actually enforced.
For example (emphasis mine):
Chief US District Judge Richard Seeborg for the Northern District of California dismissed two claims Tuesday from a proposed class action against Google, ruling that a promise to avoid collecting user data did not amount to a contract.
The case, Anibal Rodriguez, et al. v. Google LLC, revolves around Google’s privacy framework, specifically the “Web & App Activity” (WAA) button feature which allows a user to control whether data related to her activity on Google sites, apps and services can be saved in her Google account. The plaintiffs are suing Google for continuing to collect their data despite their turning off the WAA button.
The plaintiffs’ first claim was that Google violated § 631 of the California Invasion of Privacy Act%20A%20person%20who%2C,or%20by%20means%20of%20a), which penalizes tapping or learning the contents of a communication while it is in transit. There is a distinction between the higher standard of simultaneity required by § 631 and mere “recording followed by transmission”. While the plaintiffs had previously averred that Google recorded and then transmitted their data (amounting to a claim for improper recordings under § 632 instead), they now modified their claim to one under § 631 but failed to prove how the alleged processes such as “real-time ad bidding” were simultaneous.
The second claim was that by turning off the WAA button under Google’s privacy controls, a user creates a unilateral contract with Google, binding it not to collect users’ data. The judge held while the WAA button might create an expectation among users that data will not be collected, such expectation is insufficient to give rise to a contract.
Even though the user is performing a certain act, this act is not “bargained for” by Google, since Google does not request, or even suggest, the turning off of this button. Further, both unilateral and bilateral contracts require mutual obligations and only differ in their mode of acceptance. Since Google was not offering anything “in exchange” for turning off the WAA button, the WAA page cannot be the source of an additional contract between the user and Google distinct from the Terms of Service.
The judge contrasted this with an offer by Google where users in its Local Guides program could carry out activities to reach “Level 4” (which Google is “bargaining for”) to avail of one TB of free storage “in exchange”, thus forming a contract.
The judge denied the plaintiffs further opportunities to amend their claims, given their multiple unsuccessful amendments so far.
There might be an expectation I don't steal food from walmart, but there is no contract so fuck you.
Relatedly, as I said in another comment earlier:
If [A] wrongs [B] at a magnitude of [10], and to pay restitution [A] pays [C] a total of [6], that doesn't help [B] and it doesn't properly punish [A].
Especially if the "restitution" part, the part which is actually important, which is restoring [10] to [B], comes with the expectation that [B] is even aware of the "restitution" paid to [C], and then understands and knows how to and has the resources to contact [C] and then go through whatever hoops [C] sets forth... and still, there is no way possible for a wrong of [10], for which the restitution/penalty is [6], which is then split between two parties - one which was totally unconnected - to result in [10] being restored to [B] who was the original party wronged. This has played out a million times over the last decades. This is both punishing and blaming the victims. This is why "class actions" don't make any Goddamned sense. "Class action" lawsuits are the definition of fascism.
And then consider the penalty of lost time and opportunity - because [10] and [6] is clearly some kind of stand in for undefined harms, which is represented by an undefined kind of money... which is itself a stand in for time and effort... and things start to go downhill quick. That [10] has actually gained interest in the meantime.
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u/no1_vern 14h ago
"What happens behind closed doors had better stay behind those closed doors, or we will be voted out of office."
- Trump
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u/apple_kicks 13h ago
Crazy thing with stories with the devil is signing your soul away has more consent and it’s a choice you agree to. Plus most the bad things in the stories is because someone didn’t read contract that was only one page
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u/AutisticAlien224 14h ago
I’m glad we’re still talking about this. It disgusts me how quickly people have moved past it all.
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u/ndheathen 14h ago
If you read the book of revelation, you can make a real strong argument that Trump is in fact the anti-christ.
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u/thumbinbumb 7h ago
Friendly reminder that Katie Johnson met with FBI investigators at least 3 times because they found her testimony to be credible and worth investigating . She only stopped meeting with them because her family and her were receiving death threats, and she told the agents that she didn’t believe they would actually end up doing anything to prosecute her abusers or to protect her while doing so.
Considering what happened to virginia, and Epstein himself (even in federal custody) I think her fear was completely understandable.
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u/BreadandTeabags 13h ago
Both? Both is evil.
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u/Ricky_from_Sunnyvale 12h ago
One is fictional.
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u/BreadandTeabags 12h ago
Way to try starting a religion war for no reason…
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u/Ricky_from_Sunnyvale 11h ago
I'm not one to be 100% confident in the mysteries of the universe but assuming you think that thing on the left is what Christians think the devil is, it is at best a made up artistic rendering of a disobedient angel. I in no way believe in any of that but I do wonder why Christians don't bring up the fact that the bible, like any "historical" text is going to paint the writer/victor as virtuous and the enemy as well, something like that thing! Also, if the devil is so bad, why does he punish bad people? Weird.
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u/BreadandTeabags 11h ago
Oh boy, bro just said Satan punishes bad people.
Nah dude, he IS the bad people getting punished. Thats just pop culture junk, biblically speaking, hell was even made specifically for Satan and his demons.
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u/Ricky_from_Sunnyvale 11h ago
Well, everybody has their own interpretation of the bible. I guess I'm just not up on my historical fiction.
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u/pman13531 11h ago
I'd say the actions that led to the redactions were more evil. Not being told what is legally required is morally reprehensible sure but the acts taken and the people who did those acts on kids and the unwilling are just evil. It's is the same thing as what happened in that Midwest town where the football players raped the out of town girl and the town covered it up, the rapists were the most evil for the act but the rest of the town covering it up can never say their hands are clean of the situation.
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u/Edgezg 15h ago
We cannot vote our way out of this system.
Revolution is the only Solution.
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u/apple_kicks 13h ago
What wild is with everyone doing the jobs already we could collectively just agree to do them and take over anything essential and cut out corporations and needing to pay bills etc. in theory none of what we do really needs ceo or politician in society if it was fair. It’s happened few times over history (peasant revolts, strikers taking over cities and factories) but theres always a police or militia that stops it and history barely gets mentioned
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u/Cainfaer 15h ago
Not to say what this guy did wasn't awful, but you are in for a lot more evil the further into history you look. Some humans are just truly evil (cheeto with easy cheese hair, couch fucker, hangman, and autistic salute meme all included) and there seem to be no depths to that evil
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u/apple_kicks 13h ago
Funny how our monster stories about evil are less evil than the things in human history. You get to negotiate and refuse a deal with the devil. Vampires have to be invited in etc
In history people just turn up and massacre or enslave you
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u/Cainfaer 13h ago
Yeah, the paradigm is interesting. Sometimes reality inspires our monster stories. Like Ed Gein
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u/PrimaryMaize6580 15h ago
lets talk about cartels, kid rapists, sects... religional - radical communities... politicans who start genocides... camps, or holodomor... we have a lot of faces
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u/Cainfaer 15h ago
There's also ritualistic cannibalism, torture, slavery, politicians destroying an entire region for profit, eugenetic scientific practices on entire communities, various diabolical execution methods, witch hunters, marauders, conquistadors...just to name a few more faces
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u/upekkha_sati 14h ago
I care more about people than animals, but still, the billions of mammals we raise to be eaten are going through essentially hell every day. The amount of animal suffering is unimaginable and is probably humanities greatest sin. Hopefully we'll never have to face judgement or justice for supporting or allowing that to happen.
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u/FiicKn420 4h ago
I pray that we have to face judgement 99% of humanity should spent their afterlife in hell.
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u/Cainfaer 14h ago
Well depends on the farm. Yes, there are terrible mass factory farms that should be out of practice, but it isn't everyone. If you want to know where your meat and produce comes from, you can ask your local grocery store and they will tell you, and you can look into if those farms do those practices. If we support farms that don't do those practices, then it will slowly be phased out. Plus the meat will taste better when the animal is actually treated with respect. Sure it will cost more, but we should eat less meat anyways, and find more of a balance of everything
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u/PrimaryMaize6580 14h ago
ah yes UNIT 731...
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u/Cainfaer 14h ago
More meant the tuskegee syphilis study, but yeah we love weapon testing on humans /s
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u/Time_Low_7538 9h ago
I still can’t get over all the
white meat
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u/Travel_Banned_Temp 8h ago
For real.
And not just Epstein, but corporations. They are legally obligated to their shareholders, legally, to be sociopathic and evil. They can lie, steal, cheat, murder, destroy, and bribe with impunity, and they can live forever.
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u/apneax3n0n 8h ago
same sulfur smell. sadly the real antichrist smell like that for his diaper is full
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u/Stunning-Ad3377 3h ago
The Presidential Medal of Freedom should be abolished! Nobody should ever be above the law. Especially for these types of crimes…
Epstein’s crimes go back 35+yrs. A LOT of ELITES have been given total immunity since then.
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