r/ProgressionFantasy • • 14h ago

Discussion Rank These Story Elements From Most Important to Least Important

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I'm curious about what readers and writers value most in a story.

If you had to rank these elements from most important to least important, how would you rank them?

  1. Character Development: How characters grow, and change.

  2. Worldbuilding: The depth, history, lore, and rules of the world.

  3. Progression: Characters becoming stronger, gaining abilities, and advancing.

  4. Plot: The main story, its conflicts, and how events unfold.

  5. Foreshadowing: Hints and clues that make future reveals satisfying.

  6. Power System: The rules, limitations, and creativity behind a story's powers.

  7. Pacing: How quickly or slowly the story moves.

  8. Mystery: Secrets, unanswered questions, and the desire to discover the truth.

  9. Side Characters: The supporting cast and their impact on the story.

  10. Emotional Impact: How strongly a story makes you feel something.

  11. Prose and Writing Style: The quality and readability of the writing.

  12. Consistency: Maintaining established rules, characterization, and continuity.

  13. Action and Fight Scenes: The choreography, tension, and creativity of conflicts.

  14. Originality: How fresh and distinctive the story feels.

  15. Payoffs: How well the story delivers on its setup, promises, and long-running plot threads.

You can rank all of them or just share your top five.

I'm especially curious about this: which element would you sacrifice first if you had to, and which one is absolutely non-negotiable for you?


r/ProgressionFantasy • • 21h ago

Self-Promotion Borrowed Levels: Collecting worlds has now released!

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Cover Artist: Caleb Miller, AI Usage: No AIwas used, I honestly don't think it should be used in any form of human creatives.

Hi r/progressionfantasy! I shared Borrowed Levels here when Book 1 came out. Thank you to everyone who gave it a chance. Looking at the reviews, it seems like readers really enjoy the borrowed-XP premise and the lighter approach to stats. One fact about me is that this is actually only my second LitRPG book.

Book 2, Borrowed Levels: Collecting Worlds, picks up after Adam Reyes has cleared his balance. He’s trying to earn his levels the ordinary way. Then Undertow returns to a ruined farm with something Adam can’t ignore, another hunter begins gaining borrowed levels, and accounts that were supposed to be closed start changing.

Adam knows what an open balance can do to someone. This time, he’s trying to reach the other borrowers before anyone comes to collect. Protecting them may mean accepting another advance himself.

Expect System levels and classes, Guild hunters, anomalies, tactical fights, and progression with consequences. This is a direct sequel, so I recommend reading Book 1 first.

Book 2 preorder: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0HLTZ2BG8

Book 1: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0HJ4F5R71


r/ProgressionFantasy • • 22h ago

Question The Canon and stopping points - how far to read before dropping a series?

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So... if this thread goes the way I hope it does, spoilers will abound. At least for early bits of series that come up. I'm gonna leave the spoilers out of the main post though, but expect them in the comments.

I'm a firm believer that no story is for everyone, and that you shouldn't waste too much time reading something you don't like. But you should also give a book a real chance before dropping it. You don't have to like Star Wars, but if you dropped it before Ben & Beru have their BBQ, then you haven't really tried it; imo you should at least finish the whole movie before deciding.

Progression Fantasy is still a pretty new subgenre, but there are standouts and we all know what most of them are - the books that get recommended over and over, even when they're polarizing.

Dungeon Crawler Carl, Cradle, He Who Fights With Monsters, Mother of Learning, Mark of the Fool, The Wandering Inn, Defiance of the Fall, Beware of Chicken, Azerinth Healer, Worth the Candle, Hell Difficulty Tutorial, Legend of William Oh, and maybe even The Land.

The list goes on and on - so here's my question: of those series (or others that I failed to mention that you think should get attention), how far should a reader get before being confident they gave it a real try? A lot of series are written by amateurs and just get better, but do I really have to plow through a few thousand pages of Hell Difficulty or Wandering Inn to reach those points?


r/ProgressionFantasy • • 16h ago

Request Looking for an anime with an evil/dark minded protagonist

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Something similar to Tanya the evil or revenge of the iron blooded sword hound. Basically anything where the MC isn't a goody two-shoes


r/ProgressionFantasy • • 7h ago

Review Hugh of Emblin, Mage Errant Book 1

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Yo I am genuinely losing it, I feel so bad for Hugh. I read up until he got chosen as an apprentice until I felt so bad I actually had to go to sleep its driving me insane.

after waking up I feel a bit better, but this guy is actually going through some horrendous shit, his life is just absolutely miserable. it is getting a bit better now, but he had to endure so much to not be AS miserable as he was before, not happy, but simply not as bad as before, poor guy.


r/ProgressionFantasy • • 1h ago

Self-Promotion Wrote my First book, Shameless Self Promotion

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Writing my first book, and it is an isekai story, but one where the mc doesn't have a cheat or golden finger. Although there is a system, everyone has it. It is a slow paced story that has a more realistic feel while still adding fantasy, adventure, action and a bit of romance. Honest feedback would be highly appreciated.

The book is on Meganovel, Sea World: Descending with no cheats


r/ProgressionFantasy • • 11h ago

Request World creations novel

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Has anyone of you read World Keeper?

I liked a lot the idea of the novel, but disliked how the author progressed with the story.

Like adding everything he has got in his mind, from cultivation to virtual reality games all in one world.

I would like to read a story where the MC is creating a world, or universe, but that has a Logic progression.


r/ProgressionFantasy • • 7h ago

Self-Promotion Made a LitRPG series recommender which combines 900+ reddit tierlists together

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r/ProgressionFantasy • • 10h ago

I Recommend This Anyone else hate this trope?

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r/ProgressionFantasy • • 4h ago

Writing Rant: introducing new characters

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r/ProgressionFantasy • • 8h ago

Request Slice Of Life Reincarnated/Isekied As A Child Recommendations?

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Hi i recently reread gifted and eldeys and they have inspired so much joy, i am craving for more. I have tried world seed, the one where the mc hasn’t even been born, and singer sailor merchant already


r/ProgressionFantasy • • 4h ago

Discussion What are some genuinely underrated Royal Road stories that deserve more attention?

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I've noticed that Progression Fantasy recommendation threads often feature the same handful of popular stories.

Nothing wrong with those stories, but Royal Road has thousands of fictions, and I imagine plenty of good Progression Fantasies that never get much attention.

So I'm curious ... What lesser-known Royal Road Progression fantasies have you enjoyed that deserve more readers?

No strict follower limits, although I'm particularly interested in stories that rarely appear in recommendation threads.

If possible, include the title, a little about the premise and what you enjoyed about it.

Please recommend stories you've actually read rather than your own work.

Hopefully we can all discover something new!


r/ProgressionFantasy • • 3h ago

Discussion A Quick Interview with pirateaba

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Hello everyone,

Occasionally, I have the opportunity to talk to a few movers and shakers within our community. Now, normally, I post these on my website. Mostly because it's prettier, but also because it's more fun. You can find the link for that here: Link

But otherwise, this is a one-and-done interview. Normally, I prefer a short series with a specific focus. Two or three authors with targeted questions that expand their thinking within the genre. However, I’ve been trying to interview pirateaba for a long time, and now that I have it, bammo, it’s a solo.

Here’s how it works. I sent the author a series of questions I came up with myself because I wanted to know the answers. The authors have time to respond; it’s all done through email or messaging, and I don’t edit their response in the slightest.

Because I have completed so many interviews in the last few years, I created a database that readers can access at will. That database can be found here.

Okay, enough about me, let’s get to pirate!

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The author’s preference is all lowercase for their name, so please don’t assume it is a grammatical error.

About pirateaba

pirateaba first published The Wandering Inn on their WordPress blog in mid-2016. Nearly six months later, they expanded to Royal Road, eventually moved to Amazon, and are now published by HarperCollins as of March, 2026.

pirateaba’s requirement for anonymity is the stuff of legend. Luckily, I only do my interviews through email, so this all worked out very well. It also makes the next part of my standard process rather amusing.

Their About Me

Special note: This is taken from the HarperCollins website. The profile image is missing.

pirateaba is the author of The Wandering Inn, a story where monsters, magic, and adventurers collide in unexpected and wondrously hilarious or tragic ways. Their story is an ongoing webserial set in a constantly evolving world filled with levels and skills, chaos and ordinary people rising to extraordinary times. When not writing and publishing their story, pirateaba can be found reading other fantasy stories, eating popcorn with nutritional yeast, or slaying monsters, generally in video games. pirateaba is not officially a pirate in any way and does not affiliate with any known pirate groups. You can find pirateaba at wanderinginn.com or follow The Wandering Inn on Twitter @WanderingInn for more news and updates.

pirateaba’s Amazon page Link

pirateaba’s website Link

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The Interview

The Wandering Inn has become old enough that some readers have literally grown up alongside it. Has knowing that changed the sense of responsibility you feel toward the audience?

Absolutely. I’ve always felt responsible to my readers in that I know I have to end this story, and end it well. The length of the story is one thing, but abandoning or failing to tell it as well as I can would be a disservice to all the time and emotions they’ve put into staying with it so long.

I’ve been trying to write a will in my spare time, that summarizes the ending of the story. Just in case I were to die. It’s not nearly close enough to be finished, but I do want to do it. Not in any morbid expectation I pass away. Just because, I’ve seen it happen. Robert Jordan’s tale is always one that springs to mind. He did pass away before his story was finished, but he left all the pieces and work for Brandon Sanderson to finish the story. I’ve always respected him for that.

I hope that I don’t pass away before finishing The Wandering Inn, but if I do, I’d better have a roadmap finished. So people know how it ends.

When I first tried writing a novel, I found that all the history I’d designed for the world somewhat pigeonholed my plot. It causes me to wonder: Are there things you can no longer plausibly do in Innworld because ten years of story have made the world too defined?

Worldbuilding is an interesting kind of trap, isn’t it? I know exactly what you mean–when we develop worlds, we want to flesh out the lore, history, and context for the places and people our characters interact with.

However, frontloading a reader with that kind of information can put off a lot of readers. Let alone the trap of history…there are certainly cool events and things I can’t bring to life. There won’t be insert species here because they’re dead, to use a simpler example and that does make me regret it.

But the power of a fantasy story means that there’s always ruins, or hints of bygone eras. If I lock myself out of writing of an amazing age in the past, I can bring a broken relic of theirs to the present-day. We might not be able to have flying mages in today’s Innworld, but we can have people create an era of flight in a new way, with machines and other tricks. It’s an endlessly creative knot to figure out how to write what I want and it’s mostly fun.

When you started The Wandering Inn, you were writing a story. At some point, it became an institution with employees, publishers, audiobooks, merchandise, and millions of words of history. Has there ever been a moment where protecting The Wandering Inn conflicted with writing The Wandering Inn?

Protecting The Wandering Inn? No, that’s mostly a job for lawyers and trademarks and while that takes money and time, that’s something I can entrust to them.

Managing it? Yes, that does take effort and sometimes it feels like I’ve had to carve out more time to do non-writing things that I can resent or find intrudes on the process. However, I’d just say that like everything, it’s the choice of an author.

You can be a hermit who never interacts with anyone, doesn’t have an interest in movie deals and just practices your craft. Or you can be on book tours constantly, giving speeches, self-promoting and marketing. Neither one’s a bad kind of writer. You just have to be cognizant of the tradeoff of each method. Where I am is where I think I’m comfortable spending my time. A bit of sacrifice on either end.

What problem did you think success would solve that it didn’t? And what problem did success create that you never expected to have?

Success…I think success is something you keep chasing, because what it looks like keeps evolving. The Wandering Inn is amazingly successful, but for all that the attention has achieved like physical books, there’s always something else, if that makes sense.

‘If we were X times as big, maybe all the movie studios would come calling’. ‘If we were this much bigger, we’d have video games, or…’

Which is crazy to want when this all started out as an anonymous blog on the internet, but that’s the thing. The further you go, the more doors you start to see and perhaps success will open them. But they haven’t yet, so those are the problems. I’d love to have The Wandering Inn come to all kinds of mediums but no one’s come knocking down the doors to make that happen–yet. But time will see if these things happen.

As for success’ problems, I’d say it’s mostly just the pressure to keep delivering quality stories, and the pressure any person with a following online or off could tell you about. Tons of feedback, positive, negative, having attention on you is just hard. Since I’m anonymous it’s not as bad and I won’t belabor the point; everyone has some awareness of how that is.

A lot of LitRPG uses progression primarily as wish fulfillment. What do you think gaining power should cost a character?

I think there’s a good place for wish fulfillment in LitRPG’s, even if I think my story isn’t as direct in how it goes. My objection to more wish-fullment style LitRPG’s is how it presents characters with all they ever wanted.

Power, wealth, harems (in way too many of these stories, which reveals something about the author, character, and readers, perhaps), and there are few downsides aside from the big bad enemy.

Where is the apathy having all this handed to you causes? The megalomania I think comes across, even if it is not always intended on the part of the writers, but at some point, you get what you want and you may feel hollow, directionless.

Or the wish changes. When someone is handed all they want, where do they go from there? I think that’s the cost I’d like to see most. Power can be handed to the undeserving, or by chance; it’s like someone winning a lottery. What I want to see believably done is what happens after that moment.

Ryoka has always been one of the more divisive characters in The Wandering Inn. Has the intensity of reader reaction to her ever affected how you write her, or have you had to consciously resist letting that reaction influence the character?

I think that I tend not to bow to reader pressure that often. It’s a weathervane at times, but if I know the character is divisive, like Ryoka was always sort of intended to be, I don’t take it as a failure or sign I need to change things.

She’s hard to love and there are fans who adore what she represents and how she evolves, and some who just never took to her. If it were all one or the other, I’d be more concerned. However, having both positions represented strongly sort of makes me feel like I’m threading the needle properly.

A character that evokes strong likes in some readers while others hate them? I think that’s, if not a great character, a pretty fun one to have made.

Note for the reader: I was offered the opportunity to ask a few follow-up questions, so I came back with an already used one, but at a different angle. Sue me, I was curious.

Success can mean many things to different people. For example, teachers might see their form of success in the shape of their students’ futures. A businessman might see it in the growth of his life’s work. But I’m curious, for you, what does success look like?

I’d say success to me looks like people both enjoying and finding my story. So a two-part dilemma. I have to keep quality up and maintain a good output of chapters for existing readers, but I would like more people to find the web serial.

Part of why I wanted the physical book release is because it opens doors to a lot of people who have no interest in or would never find online stories like these. My hope is they start reading, and those that like The Wandering Inn catch up and say that quality has not decreased in the 10+ years I’ve been writing, and that things are still new, fresh, and worth reading.

When I’m done, I hope that the series becomes one of those stories that finds its way into people’s collections, and has a presence in lists of books worth reading. That’s a good legacy to have.

This is just abhorrent curiosity on my part. What books are you currently reading?

One of the authors I’ve been into recently is Lois McMaster Bujold; I was put onto The Curse of Chalion and I was so impressed by their writing that I bought the rest of the books they’ve written. I think I’m on The Paladin of Souls at the moment, but I sometimes move onto other series and come back for a change of pace.

Another author I recently read was Jacqueline Carey and her Cassiel’s Servant books–she’s an author I very much respect for her amazing worldbuilding so if I hear of a new book from her I’ll probably buy it.

I have also been reading Katalepsis, and Archmage’s Co-Efficient for the web serial side of things, but I spend so long on the screen that I haven’t managed to catch up to either. I also find that my writing muscles tend to tire out the reading muscles in my brain too, so it’s slow progress.

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And that’s the ball game.

I had the opportunity to meet with pirate’s staff at LitRPGCon to set up this luminous venture, and I wanted to thank them (thank you again, Damien), and of course pirateaba, for agreeing to answer a few questions.

Be on the lookout for more interviews to come. I have a hankering for a fruity publishing company.

p.s. I'm shit with markdown. Sorry for how it looks.


r/ProgressionFantasy • • 14h ago

I Recommend This Suffering builds Character... or Stats or something

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r/ProgressionFantasy • • 12h ago

Question Is there a rating site (like IMDB) for web novels?

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Thanks for the help!


r/ProgressionFantasy • • 6h ago

Question help me pick back up 12 miles below Spoiler

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i have read finished the first three books and i am half way through book 4 of the series and honestly it is solid till book 3, action is nice the characters are fresh the suits of armor idea is well executed but i got distracted half way through book 4 and drop it and picked up another series ig its because i have no clue where the plot is going and the main goal is way too broad and the minor goals are very vague so can you people drop a few spoilers like a few future achievements for mc(like new inventions or combat techniques) and major events in the world to excite me and help me pick this series back up


r/ProgressionFantasy • • 15h ago

I Recommend This Some of these “Self-Aware” “Parody” titles

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r/ProgressionFantasy • • 3h ago

Request transmigration/reincarnation stories that address the fact that the protagonist is effectively a body snatcher?

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exactly what it says on the tin. stories where the characters find out that the person they knew is dead and their body is being used by someone else, or that the child they were supposed to have is already a fully-formed person who (for all they know) stole the body of their actual child before they even born, and have to deal with that. bonus points if the protagonist also has to reckon with the fact that they stole someone‘s entire life, even if it was unintentional/nonconsensual on their part.