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[u/Waste_Jello9947]

[u/SolFlorus]

If I’m paying Accenture to generate code with AI, I might as well do it myself.

On the plus side, AI generated code would be an improvement over anything Accenture writes by hand.

[u/UnseenSpectacle2 → u/SolFlorus]

That is true. The worst project I have ever seen was a government software project where they were the prime contractor. 50+ dev/test environments, multiple deployment pipelines, pushing code to prod without regression testing, etc. If you can think of a bad development practice, this program likely had it.

[u/Wide_Smoke_2564 → u/UnseenSpectacle2]

Obviously the best way to get a quality product is to pay a bunch of mercenaries to put something together that they won’t have to maintain and won’t be accountable for, as quickly as possible

[u/collabskus → u/Wide_Smoke_2564]

Why is Accenture so bad but then Avanade which is owned by Accenture good? At least in my experience, the Poland based team I worked with was really good. 

[u/LostInGradients → u/SolFlorus]

Yeah not to be too mean with these types of companies/people, but when I did software engineering 10 years ago, students that would join such consulting companies after getting their diploma were usually either those who actually didn't care about CS/Software eng and wanted to move to a management position ASAP, and those who didn't do so good in school. Of course there are exceptions but still.

[u/nate-rivers]

Only 29$ per month

https://giphy.com/gifs/wzE1IlaPMoNXi

[u/Unhappy-Stranger-336 → u/nate-rivers]

That's abuse

[u/TheFrenchSavage → u/nate-rivers]

At first I thought "damn, 29 a day is hard, but with some discipline..."

[u/Aelig_]

This is just a way for Accenture to say that they think AI is not making them more productive at all. $29 on enterprise pricing might as well be 0.

[u/Zefuribond]

I work at Accenture and this is so funny to me. For about a year, management has been pressuring us to follow an insane amount of mandatory video training about AI. And now we're using it ! Who could have guessed ?

[u/Crazyboreddeveloper → u/Zefuribond]

I was at slalom for a while after AI started getting useful. They wanted us to do a bunch of AI training so we could be the go to consulting company for AI solutions… as I was using AI to do stuff I thought “no one needs to hire anyone to do this. They can just do it themselves.”

So now I am not a consultant. I work in house. I work with familiar code bases all the time. My permissions are all correct and stuff, I know who to reach out to for what, there is no contract expiration date, and no bench. I just always have shit to do.

It’s so much better.

[u/lordnacho666]

LMAO they can't just give everyone a pro max account?

[u/Tango00090 → u/lordnacho666]

Companies are forced to be on enterprise. They pay the real cost of models, so the 29$ is basically a 1h session with opus

[u/static_func → u/Tango00090]

Do so many developers really just default to models like Opus? That’s insane. Most work can be done just as well and even faster with cheaper models

[u/flayingbook → u/static_func]

My ex-boss measured work performance with the number of token consumed. So guess which model I used as default for everything?

[u/Jeff_From_IT → u/flayingbook]

Any of them, if youre build in enough stupid design decisions! Why does a calculator need a mfa backed api and a datalake back end that has event based real time reporting? No one knows, but it has it! And for the low price of way too many tokens.

[u/Ascend → u/flayingbook]

Higher models don't necessarily consume more tokens, it's just that the same number of tokens cost more. Better to up the level of thinking instead.

[u/Tango00090 → u/static_func]

In my project there’s no default model, we have model routing so the main agent would split the task into smaller chunks that would have model decided by the scope, so Haiku for stuff that don’t need any reasoning, sonnet for development, opus for architectural decisions. I gave only an example using opus

[u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo → u/Tango00090]

Many are on copilot though, they aren’t as generous as first party sub though but definitely not 1h session kind of usage

[u/thiccshortguy → u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo]

My company is on copilot, they have a hissy fit every time a users uses more than $100 per month in AI credits.

[u/Igarlicbread → u/Tango00090]

That sounds like less than what an indian dev makes

[u/lordnacho666 → u/Tango00090]

I bet they just pay for it themselves

[u/Alternative-Lynx2745 → u/lordnacho666]

I still dont understand this. SWEs at Accenture don't use Accenture's licensing/cost center. They use the cost center of whatever client they're contracted out to. Contracting companies aren't doing this shit internally, why would they? They put your ass in a seat, bill your hours to a client, the client pays for all of your licenses for JIRA, Teams/Webex/Whatever, and every other thing they require their teams to use. Odds are really good you're working for a client that is balls deep into AI and mandating that everyone use it so you have a copilot subscription their your [email@client.com](mailto:email@client.com) account, not your [email@accenture.com](mailto:email@accenture.com)

[u/Akrymir → u/Alternative-Lynx2745]

I think the idea is that because they’re contractors that the client doesn’t offer them as many credits as their employees, or the company they’re at doesn’t incorporate much AI. I know it’s been a challenge to get our contractors approved for the plan we use for developers.

[u/Alternative-Lynx2745 → u/Akrymir]

A lot of companies are the exact opposite. They are forcing it and enforcing it. You better get your shit set up and use AI OR ELSE!!!!!$$!%%^%^^&&&

[u/L4ppuz → u/Alternative-Lynx2745]

That's client and project dependent I think, most of the people I know have had their license terminated and do not have a client provided license

[u/Prod_Meteor → u/Alternative-Lynx2745]

I got out of outsourcing when the client started calling me and my colleagues: "rentals", verbally and even in emails. And also when I learned that for any penny I got paid, my company took one more.

[u/lordnacho666 → u/Alternative-Lynx2745]

This is a very good point

[u/KirillIll → u/Alternative-Lynx2745]

Contacting companies very much to this shit internally as well, mostly to build know how and being able to offer consulting services in that field themselves. I work for one.

(Funnily enough we recently took over a project from Accenture cause they were so shit that the contract was straight up terminated prematurely, I wish they used AI to write their code even half as much as insinuated here)

[u/BornAgainBlue]

Boy, it looks like I got out of there just in time... Just kidding. My new company has the same limit.

[u/YouAreMyFire00]

not just Accenture, all companies that have dev team are like this lmfao

I heard some companies dont buy AI subscription so devs have to pay themself lmfao

cheap ass companies lol

[u/theChaosBeast]

I mean what other than SAP support do they do?

[u/KirillIll → u/theChaosBeast]

Pretend to be competent engineers and consultants for a field they've never worked in and fuck up an S4 transition almost as spectacularly as the Lidl one?

[u/Wide_Smoke_2564 → u/theChaosBeast]

Book meetings with people about booking more meetings

[u/glenpiercev → u/theChaosBeast]

What about MicroSoft support?

[u/Prod_Meteor]

IBM is there too, don't worry.

[u/IntentionallyBadName]

Accenture and Cognizant have the most incapable developers in existence, even with AI they are incapable... without they are something to behold.

[u/mr2dax]

29$ is plenty if you utilize skills, ICC prompting. Don't use AI for simple tasks like renaming a variable, use it for work only.