People often say that Ahsoka is overexposed in the franchise and it's ridiculous that she's still alive post-OT. The common take I see online is that Vader should've killed her in that Rebels episode. I get that. Vader kills her, cuts away yet another reminder of his past. It would've been solid, but also a little cliched? And expected? Kind of a retread of Vader killing Obi-Wan, or many other reminders of his past.

My hot take is that she should've died in the Venator crash. Imagine she barely misses the Y-Wing by a few inches and is killed. Rex recovers her remains, buries her, and makes the memorial. In that last scene with Vader, he comes across the site and recognizes what it is: Ahsoka's grave. The scene is then a moment of quiet reflection, one where Vader has to reckon with the fact that she's only dead because of him; things clearly only went sideways at the crash site because of Order 66, which never would've been issued if Vader hadn't interfered in the arrest. Vader might not have been the one to kill her, but his actions led to her death regardless. This can both be a moment of regret and also a moment where Vader again feels there's no going back and that he is unredeemable.

To me, this feels like it would've been a much more narratively tragic, but also thematically more interesting choice.

Yes, i know., it's another TIE series ranting post.

Recently i've stumbled upon an Instagram post about irl fighter pilot training costs. For example, training of F-16 combat ready pilot roughly take about 3-5 years from the ground up and costs half a dozen million dollars. And not to forget that percentage of people, who can be a jet fighter pilot is very low and even fewer people will be able to make it to the end. Also, each fighter roughly costs about 100-250 millions USD.

In conclusion we have a very elite, expensive to train and maintain combat unit. And this is fair for many other countries as well.

When we've reading about TIE pilots, training time are about the same. 3-4 years to became a pilot, and failure rate is 90%+. One of ten is able to make it out and survive. Thought it's not stated how much it costs to imperial taxpayers, we can assume that all training including academy maintaining, equipment, fuel and so on should be almost expensive as real life. But simple TIE/ln is costs half of a price of and X-Wing.

And what we see in almost every movie or TV series? Empire just spamming TIEs in a 5 to 1 ratio or higher, which is considerable to just throwing credits into X-wings to no purpose.

Yes, we are talking about fiction intergalactic regime with infinite money, but anyway - due to this difficulties in pilot training, empire should have at least shortage of good pilots or cut their training at least at half a year. Fighters are cheap, yes, but they are require an insane amount of skills in comparison.

TL;DR - Imperial Fighter Corps should have been experience shortage in good pilots and going bankrupt in like ten years BBY.

I just watched this arc for the first time and while yes it's an impactful moment, it was also kind of just frustrating. The council's decision to expel her right away made zero sense.

I know people will say stuff like "she looked bad" because of all the dumb things she did or "she was found with the explosives," but that only makes sense in the the real world criminal justice system where the force doesn't exist. These are Jedi, the force is like a 6th sense for them and a proven reliable source of truth ("search your feelings, you know it to be true"). There are plenty of other times in the show where characters can feel through the force when something is wrong/out of place/or they're being misled. So all that circumstantial evidence makes zero sense for a group of people who can just meditate out the answer - which they don't even bother trying to do.

And that ties in to my second point - the council makes no attempt at doing any investigation or mounting any kind of defense for Ahsoka. They very easily could have told Tarkin - "we'll agree to your tribunal but first we will do our own investigation" or something other than "instantly capitulate to political pressure." And the frustrating thing is Anakin solves the entire thing in seemingly a day, yet there's no in-show explanation offered for why they couldn't have pursued this option especially since there were members of the council will serious doubts. At no other point in the series is the council depicted as this lazy, apathetic, or incompetent.

I also want to point out that Baris's motivation is non-existent. At no point in the show do they really explore how the public perceives the war, the challenges the Jedi face in light of a changing public opinion, nor what would radicalize Baris to the point of bombing the temple and murdering innocent people - especially considering in the show we've seen the separatists do some very genocidal things (and we have to assume Baris has seen or heard of the atrocities as well). I also find it annoying how Baris just completely overpowers Asajj - a character shown having gone toe to toe with some of the most powerful force users in the show.

The only way any of this arc makes sense is when you step outside the world of the show and view it as a necessity to escape the corner Filoni found himself in with Ahsoka. He's built up this very important/pivotal character who is never seen let alone mentioned in any previous media that book-ends the time period of the show, and he also refuses to kill her. He needed a way to make her disappear. They can't have the empire or Palps do it because why would Anakin later side with the people who jailed/executed his Padawan who he 100% believed was innocent. So now it has to be some kind of Council screw up to force her to leave the order, but other than faking Obi-Wan's death, the show doesn't give us any reason to believe the council is really bad or corrupt. And the result is this ass-pull kind of excuse of "we're unpopular because of the war and we need to kowtow to the senate and throw Ahsoka under the bus."

Imagine you're the captain of an ISD, out on patrol, searching for rebels in some lowkey sector of the galaxy when you learn that Palpatine and Vader are dead and the Empire is collapsing. Then you look to your crew and say...

"The Empire is gone, but we are here with a ship that can't be matched by anyone in this sector and the crew to run it. I say, we go into business for ourselves."

I’m in the middle of reading Master and Apprentice Novel, and I reached a part where Obi Wan talks about how Qui Gon puts his puts away on his own boots instead of leaving them in the center of the room for him to handle.

He said it in a way that implied it was his duty.

It made me curious as to what exactly a Padawan’s responsibilities are besides training, studying, serving as Jedi Commander, and being at their master’s side.

Are they like squires to knights?

The end of Empire Strikes Back (Empire) has Yoda mention "another" who we now know is Leia.

Let's say Luke slacks off in the year between Empire and Return of the Jedi or Yoda and Obi-Wan simply decide to pivot because they don't think Luke is ready to face Sidious and Vader. What happens? Does Leia replace Luke's role in the story? Does Luke go against Vader and Sidious by himself? Do they both go to the Death Star 2, leaving Endor entirely to Han? Does Leia even succeed in her training?

Star Wars has plenty of super rare, expensive metals and materials that different writers come up with. Beskar, Phrik, Cortosis, etc. Certain characters are lucky enough to get their hands on armour and weapons made of this stuff, and it serves them very well. Beskar and Phrik are very durable, even capable of withstanding a lightsaber blade. Pure cortosis literally shorts out a lightsaber for a period of time if the blade comes in contact with the metal. Cortosis can also be weaved into weapons like swords to make them immune to lightsaber blades.

This is very problematic however, for one reason. Why in the galaxy do important people like Darth Vader or General Grievous not have them? Seriously. It doesn't matter how rare these materials are, because if ANYONE has them, then the most important, high ranking warriors of giant galactic factions should have them.

General Grievous is already a fearsome Jedi hunter, a greater duelist than most Jedi Masters even. However, he isn't invincible, and a lightsaber blade can still slice through his armour fairly easily. Now if he was made of a lightsaber-resistant metal, he would be unstoppable! You would only be able to kill him with the force (which is already very hard and was only even accomplished by Mace Windu in the 2003 Clone Wars, and is much harder now since he can pressure you even more now due to being completely unthreatened by your weapon), or heavy cannons and artillery. This upgrade would make him overpowered, and would make him significantly more effective in combat, as well as being great protection for such a useful warrior and crucial Separatist figure, the leader of the Droid Army.

The same applies to Darth Vader. He is the apprentice, right hand, and enforcer of The Emperor, and a Jedi hunter as well. The Empire has access to way more than enough lightsaber-proof metals than is needed to armour him, and yet for some reason his suit and cybernetics aren't made of them? Why do only random people like random Mandalorians, or Qimir in The Acolyte, or some other people who are much less wealthy and important than people like Vader and Grievous, have these super-metals?

Speaking of Grievous, it seems that when some writer or writers saw the magnaguard's electrostaffs blocking lightsaber strikes, they didn't get the memo that the ELECTRO aspect of the staff that is sheathing the weapon with energy is shielding the weapon from the lightsaber blades, because they wrote that the staffs were made out of lightsaber-resistant Phrik. This is absolutely nonsensical, because if the CIS have access to enough of this metal to arm all their magnaguards with them, why are they using them for the staffs instead of making the guards themselves out of it? Plating the magnaguards (and Grievous himself) with Phrik would be much better and more useful, and also wouldn't be semi-redundant due to the fact that electrostaffs can block lightsabers anyway.

Another specific problem I have is with cortosis weave. If you can weave vibroswords with it, why don't you weave your armour with it? It would make you immune to lightsabers and blaster bolts, but instead you only do it for your sword? This lore only exists so that you can swordfight Jedi and Sith without a lightsaber.

At least Beskar gets a bit of a pass because you can say that the materials needed for it are basically exclusive to Mandalorian-controlled worlds, and that the difficult, mysterious forging methods for it are gatekept by the Mandalorians, but even then it doesn't completely explain it away, and I personally don't like the idea that only one specific culture has access to and benefits from this overpowered metal that is objectively better than any other.

My headcanon is that none of these materials are objectively better than the ones already used by the top dogs, just differently specialized.

Beskar is more durable than other armours, and can withstand around 5 seconds of lightsaber contact (or repeated strikes worth that much) without being sliced through, but it is also heavier than other armours. This also explains why Mandalorian armour has such limited coverage compared to most trooper armours, it would be too heavy otherwise. Beskar coverage like Jango Fett's or Din Djarin's is as heavy as wearing full durasteel, which is like wearing full medieval plate armour. That same coverage for durasteel is like wearing full Plastoid armour commonly worn by the troops of different factions.

This would explain why Vader, Grievous and many other people don't have top quality armour. The answer: they do! They chose the best armour of a specific weight. If they wore Beskar, the increase in protection would scale proportionally with the weight increase. We can also still have Beskar be unique and exclusive to Mandalorians by retaining its special strengths, just without it being some overpowered, unfair advantage that Mandalorians have.

Qui-Gon: You almost got yourself killed! Are you brainless?!

Jar Jar: I spek

Qui-Gon: The ability to speak does not make you intelligent.

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Naboo was colonized by humans ~1000 years BBY, which is not that long for Star Wars considering technology's barely improved in the last 4000. We know the Gungans and humans of Naboo have very little contact, and Jar Jar, Boss Nass, and Captain Tarpals are the only ones we see actually speaking Basic (and even some of that could be translated for the audience's benefit)

So maybe being able to speak Basic is actually rare among Gungans, and Qui-Gon's assumption that Basic was Jar Jar's first language was from a very colonialist perspective.

In the Aftermath trilogy, Mas Amedda ends up leading a local puppet government on Coruscant, but in The Mandalorian, there is no sign of him. Rae Sloane's current status is unknown to me, and it is thought that Snoke deposed her to take control of the First Order, meaning she must have been in charge for quite some time. Additionally, the New Separatist Union is briefly mentioned in Empire's End and never brought up again. What fate do you think the writers planned for them.

I think that having more Jedi survivor Order 66 in Legends won't be a plot hole for the OG trilogy as I think rebel command deliberately kept their location a secret for security purposes.

We see the Rebels operating entire fleets of starfighters, capital ships, military bases, intelligence networks, and thousands of personnel across the galaxy. All of this would require an enormous amount of credits, resources, fuel, maintenance, food, weapons, and other supplies right?

I know that wealthy individuals and sympathetic senators like Bail Organa and Mon Mothma helped support the Rebellion, so was that enough to fund an entire military or did they have other way of acquiring funds?

If you are a non human in the SW galaxy would you actually be able to differentiate between human faces? And ditto humans for para-humans and aliens? Would faces only be recognisable by members of the same species?

Obviously they were highly politically involved, so the Senate and everyone in those circles would’ve known them (or the senior ones). But what about the general public?

We’ve seen people who think the Jedi are myths. We’ve seen people who recognise Jedi as a group. And after Order 66, presumably a lot of Jedi would’ve become household names by virtue of having bounties.

But how well known was, say, Yoda in the pre-imperial days? Would he have been publicly famous? Or was the concept of Jedi well known but the individuals relatively anonymous?

Based on the general idea that the New Republic was just a rehash of the old and didn't really fix any of the issues with the Old. How could the NR have been structured to avoid the problems of the old? Because it seems to me that blinding yourself to an external threat and wanting to stop before the enemy is fully crushed because the people are tired of war are both foibles to l common to basically any democratic system

In TPM, the Council (more specifically Ki-Adi-Mundi, but shared by Windu so I suppose it's agreed) that the Sith is gone or else they would have sense them. However, since the Sith should have been gone for so long, no one would have "senses" of the Sith. So they were assuming they would sense the Sith, or other similar challenging events in the wider Galaxy, not just Force-sensitive events like the Sith.

We see it again in AotC, when Obi-wan reports the clone army. Windu and Yoda both agree they failed to sense the clone army, their foresight has diminished and they probably should to report this to the Senate. Suggesting not only their foresight is not-Force-related-events only, but also such powers are used in the past to alert the Senate or other policymakers, and the fact should be reported.

(Slight tangent, actually, how did the Jedi not sense all the events leading to the Clone Wars? Did Palpatine & Co. deliberately perform some kind of interference to hide their activity or the Jedi simply overestimated their abilities would be able to detect such disturbances?)

Considering we know there a few conflicts prior to the Clone Wars: Stark hyperspace war, the Huk/Kaleesh-Yam'rii war, the (latest of many) Mandalorian civil war, and many in Legends. If such is the case, do we know how many times, and to what extend do the Jedi Order sense or foresee any sort of big disturbances of galactic events and if they responded in some kind?

^{Other than Sifo-Dyas foreseeing and commission the clone army in the first place.}

Title. Assuming that he never dueled Kenobi and died (and desired to join the Alliance for whatever reason), would the rebels as a whole, or at least a few major cells, have attempted to use his services? How much would they have known about his previous crimes and manipulations? Also, what if he tried to brute force his way through Alliance leadership (e.g. Organa, Mothma, etc.)?

I know that Luke uses the force to guide the torpedoes down the exhaust port, but would it have been possible without that?

I believe the X-wings were retrofitted with the torpedoes so they weren't really suited to make the shot, but maybe the Y-Wings which are actually purpose made bombers could have done it if only they were fast enough to dodge the TIE fighter fire?

I seem to recall the old EU said that the trench run was later used as a training sim for pilots later on?

To elaborate, imagine if the Death Star explosion is much greater than in canon, and simultaneously wipes out both the rebel fleet and the entire defending imperial fleet

What I am specifically asking is:

* What Are the laws (both written or unwritten) of the force that prevents them from going all out into God Mode (in the same vein as Starkiller or Luke Skywalker) at the drop of the hat?

* How long does it take for a force user to train, study, gain experiences and win some fights to get to any power level to feasibly lift a tank off the ground then smash it against the wall and wipe out whole squads of gunmen on their own for example?

* How risky and dangerous it is for any force user to try to break their limits at the cost of their bodies taking debilitating toll (like torn muscles, broken bones, bleeding noses, migraines, ETC)

* What sacrifices must any force user offer to get anywhere to their peak performances when wielding the power of the force?

* What happens when any Jedi, Sith, Dark Jedi or any other practitioner of the (like say the Aing-Tii) attempt to both literally and metaphorically punch above their weight when they try to take on an entire army on their own with just the force and their lightsabers?

Hi!
So this is something that has been bugging me for a long time.
In the Clone Wars show, there's an episode in which the CIS attacks Kamino (and I believe that event also happens in Legends, if I'm not mistaken. Never actually read the comic books, though).

But why would Dooku and Palpatine allow such a thing to happen? I always felt like this would jeopardize the war, and therefore, the Plan, if the CIS managed to win.

Now, I don't know if there's an official explanation to this. But I thought about two headcanon theories that could explain this (It's been a while since I actually watched the episode of the show, so tell me if I'm wrong on the details).

1. As far as I remember, Dooku is not in that one episode. So a simple explanation could simply be that Grevious decided on his own to attack the planet, without approval from Dooku. HOWEVER, I seem to remember that Ventress is in the episode. And given the fact that Ventress is Dooku's apprentice, I suppose this means that Dooku would be aware about the whole thing and allowed Ventress to join the battle, so this explanation doesn't really work.

2. Another possible explanation. Now, at first, I thought that defeating Kamino would jeopardize the war, but actually, not really! I mean, there are already millions of clones stationed everywhere around the galaxy. The Republic already has all the clones they need. Sabotaging the production of clones wouldn't really change anything to the war, because once a clone is born, it takes 10 years for them to reach maturity anyway!

Now, why would Palpatine order the attack on Kamino? My theory, is that at this point of the war, maybe Palpatine has already decided that after the war, all the clones will be replaced by human recruits for his new Empire. And as stated earlier, every new clone needs a whole decade before being ready for war, and Palpatine knows that he will absolutely not need any additional clones in 10 years!

So basically, Kamino had already served its purpose and Palpatine doesn't need it anymore. BUT he cannot simply say to the senate, right in the middle of the war :''We are going to stop clone production''. I'm sure there would be outrage. That would be as if Roosevelt, during WWII, decided to stop the production of military equipment. So instead, he relies on the CIS to stop the clone production.

HOWEVER, I then remembered that in this same season of the show (or another season maybe? I don't remember), there's an episode in which, iirc, Palpatine declares to the senate that they are going to increase clone production (which doesn't make much sense, since again, even if you increase clone production, it will take a whole decade before those clones are ready to fight...).

So yeah, do you guys have any theory? Or is there an official explanation to this?

(In this post, I talked about the episode of the Clone Wars show, but you can still talk about the Kamino invasion in Legends too!)

Thanks and may the Force be with you!

My knowledge of the lore is not hugely extensive but I'm pretty sure not all Imperials were treated as war criminals. We've known of many defectors and ex-Imperials throughout Legends and Canon but I'm not actually aware how Stormtroopers were treated after the fall of the Empire. Surely not all of them joined the Remnants and not all of them were zealots.

Anyway as a thought, what do you suppose will happen to the First and Final Order post IX? Knowing that many of the FO were kidnapped children, would they try to reunite them with their long lost families? Would they try and assess if these soldiers are capable of being reintegrated into galactic society or if they've become too indoctrinated?

The Final Order, now there's a more curious point. Presuming they've never known anything else besides being raised on that planet and the Sith teachings, what do you even do with them?

Starfighter will address the fact that the state of the galaxy is not likely to be a very civil and lawful one after the Sequel trilogy but whether we find out much about what happens to the FO, who knows. So what do you think?

Papa Palpatine is almost always presented as the man who can do anything now as the Emperor with a dark robe and deformed face and cackling as he shoots lighting out of his fingers at the bickering politicians, the corrupt bureaucrats, or the incompetent officials. But was he actually the all-power emperor as presented? Surely running a galaxy-spanning government means reasonable concessions and comprises on certain things to smooth things over.

I don't mean things that are physically impossible to accomplish ("Take the planet Corusant and push it somewhere else"); operationally unable to achieve ("I want all the rebels in the galaxy dead tomorrow by 2"); things he never express interest to ("Liberate all the slaves and institute an universal basic income").

Anything he clearly wanted to do as Emperor, but due to how much trouble it would do he didn't do it. Like disbanding the Senate, which he couldn't do it before the Death Star was completed.
The things he, as the legal, political, and administrative powers recognized as Emperor of the Galactic Empire, could do.

Do we have any media portraying the main forms of power generation in the galaxy? Not for ships or weapons, but everyday power grids connected to homes, businesses, etc. Would something like nuclear energy be seen as primative?

It came to my attention, especially after reading an unpublished article called Faith Reborn: A Sith Dynasty (theres a link that leads to the actual article in the notes and references section) that Lumiya actually had the same nerfs that Suit Vader had. However, while this isnt necessarily new information, the article does mention that even skills such as alchemical mastery and Force lightning are beyond Lumiya due to a lack of midichlorians.

This thus made me wonder if another relatively common ability for Sith such as Force drain (an ability even used by the average inquisitor and dark side adept in the EU. Remember, the citizens of Prakith were being drained by inquisitors for example) were also beyond her scope especially because in one of the LOTF books this is whats said:

Lumiya waited until her medical droid was set up beside her reclining chair. She was healing well—she should be fit to return to physical activities within a few days. She was still weak, though, and wanted care to be instantly available if this task caused her to collapse.
She closed her eyes and let the dark side power that suffused the asteroid roll over her, through her.
Then she began looking, through the Force, for a distant target—a mind she had touched many times and reshaped during those contacts, a mind she had made so familiar and distinct she could find it even halfway across the galaxy.
It helped that she knew on what world the mind was to be found, but even so it was long, wearying minutes before she found it—to her inner eye it was a distinctive yellow glow, surrounded by tiny gleaming sparks of red. Fewer sparks than before; the efforts of the enemy to diminish her influence had apparently been successful in part.
But only in part. Lumiya smiled. The enemy’s techniques were nowhere near as effective as hers.
She approached the mind until it filled her vision, and she planted herself there, making its location an anchor point for her consciousness.
Now for the second phase of this elaborate Sith technique. She drew back from her target mind, seeking other mentalities in the area. And there they were, glows of various hues, none of them, sadly, decorated with the red sparks of her influence.
She sampled each in turn. Most were awake—firm, more resolute than she could affect at this distance. Others were too fragmented; when she touched them they tended to drift apart into smaller, incoherent glows, and she knew that these were the minds of the inmates … the patients.
Then she found one that was firm, grounded, but not so resistant to her touch. Its owner was asleep. Lumiya sampled it further, found it to be the mind of a Quarren female.
Like a spectral parasite, she affixed herself to that mind, forging a connection, drawing energy out of it and the body that sustained it. She could not draw that energy into herself, though she badly needed sustenance now; she could feel her own body begin to shake from the strain. But she could, and would, put the energy to use.

This made me wonder; was she unable to use such an ability due to the fact that she literally cant (probably due to her cybernetics) or because that energy was being used to create Force phantoms? Originally I thought it was the latter but now Im no longer sure.

This also made me wonder about Vader as well, as the article compared Lumiya's condition to Vader's and as we know Vader and Force Lightning are a whole topic by themselves.
Yet as I actually thought about it more, I found myself unable to recall a single time in which Vader ever used force drain or was listed in a sourcebook as knowing such an ability let alone practiced Sith Alchemy. Sure, as Anakin, he learned how to resist Force drain and he did teach Kharys how to create Smoke Demons but thats about it.

Assuming Sidious was defeated and the Republic had won the war, what exactly did the Republic have planned for their Clones? Would they have just been nameless soldiers as before or given a choice to leave the Republic for their own lives or stay as a sort of police force as they were on most planets after the war under Sidious?