r/LeagueClassic • • 3h ago

Discussion Will League classic players transition to Syndicate of Souls?

9 Upvotes

I saw plenty of comments that Chronoshift did a better job than riot recreating the League classic experience and a lot of praising for the team. And recently I saw they developped a new moba game featuring at least on paper the mechanics of the classic days. Visuals are close but for sure more polished, the pace is slower and supposedly its a much more strategic than mechanical game with much less overloaded kits(At least by the desription). So I wonder will it succesfuly attract the classic players?


r/LeagueClassic • • 4h ago

Question CN LoL website announced a massive "Pacing Patch" for League Classic in 26.21 — Are these changes global?

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19 Upvotes

On October 14th, the Chinese LoL official website published an announcement. Besides stating that League Classic will officially end in January 2027, it also mentioned a "Pacing Patch" (提速) for Patch 26.21 to address players' complaints that the mode feels too slow.

However, I didn't see these changes mentioned in Phreak's latest video. So I'm not sure if these updates are exclusive to the Chinese server or if they are global changes.

Here are the specific patch notes listed in the announcement:

Economy

  • Global Passive Gold Income: +120 gold per minute (accumulates to +2400 gold over 20 minutes).

Turrets

  • Outer Turret early-game bonus resistances (decaying from 120 to 0 during 0–10 mins): Removed.

Minion Waves

  • Minion scaling: Damage scaling 1.5x ⇒ 2x; other stats remain 1.5x.
  • Wave spawn interval: Fixed 30s ⇒ 30s / 25s starting at 1st / 10th minute respectively.
  • Cannon minion spawn frequency: Every 3rd wave / Every 2nd wave / Every wave. The switch timings are moved from 1/15/25 mins ⇒ 1/10/15 mins.
  • Minion movement speed: 325/345/365 (at 0/15/25 mins) ⇒ 350/375/400/425 (at 0/5/10/15 mins).
  • Baron Nashor buff: Now empowers all minions instead of just Cannon minions.

Jungle

  • Jungle monster gold & XP: Increased to 1.2x / 1.5x starting at 10/15 mins.
  • Initial Red/Blue buffs: HP -200, Attack Damage -20.

Homeguard

  • Activation time: Now active from the start of the game (previously from 10 mins).
  • Movement speed bonus: 10% (25% with Baron buff) ⇒ Fixed at 25%.
  • Duration: 20–40 seconds ⇒ 30–60 seconds.

Has anyone else heard about this? I'm really curious if Riot plans to implement this globally. Any info would be appreciated!


r/LeagueClassic • • 5h ago

Question When do i know when a Q is bugged?

1 Upvotes

Shit said 2:11 estimate, left once it hit 10 minutes...... smh....

also FUCK RIOT for deleting classic IN 2 FUCKIN MONTHS


r/LeagueClassic • • 6h ago

Discussion To all you people who blame players for classic shutting down.

19 Upvotes

I am pretty precise with my wording. I am not talking about why classic failed i am talking strictly about why it is shutting down. It's shutting down simply because the higher up execs at Riot and Tencent are extremely greedy to the point of literally kissing their money. It's disgusting.

Activision Blizzard, a company with such a bad rep about how they treat their players, to this day have kept heroes of the storm running for free. Yes. You can literally go and download heroes of the storm right now and play it,

It's still there, very much alive with a small but dedicated playerbase, even though it failed miserably and has absolutely no updates coming for it anymore since years.

And then you see Riot, being stingy to the point of not even holding out on a GAMEMODE for a whole year.

So now tell me. Where are your god damn excuses guys? Who do you think is really the kulprit here?


r/LeagueClassic • • 6h ago

Discussion It's not all Riots fault that Classic failed

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Here me out, this might (or probably will) be a hot take but I claim:

The community has a very very large role in why riot is shutting down league classic.

Now for why:

I have read dozens of threads in this and the normal league sub about classic over the past months, from before it was released, when it was released, now that it's shutting down, etc and from what I can tell, riot could only fail this. It wasn't even a matter of "if" they would fail with classic, it was a "when" would they fail.

Tbh, I didn't expected it to be this soon, but I knew pretty early they they wouldn't keep it going forever, at least not how the community reacted to everything.

What I mean is, that the community asked for classic for years and was pretty hyped for it in the beginning when it was announced and close to release. But when more information leaked and when it was released something was clear: Riot cannot satisfy the player base around classic, because the biggest problem was: What patch are they going to release league classic on?

Currently it's a combination of different patches from the first three seasons, but mainly the third. For some this is already old, for some this is still to new for classic. I started league in February of 2011 and played since then, so for me classic shouldnt feel that Classic, but classic enough, and it does. But there are a lot of players saying it should have been beta (because that's old), or season 4 or 5 (because that's when league started to take off big time) or whatever. There is no consensus, and that's what I mean. How should riot pick a proper patch, when we don't even know what we actually want? Now people in comments will say "They should have picked patch XYZ", but be real and read some threads in the subs, there is no common ground. Riot tried its best, but was doomed to fail.

Another problem is, that many of us saw old league through rose-tinted glasses and wanted back what we once had. But we had to learn again, that there are things that we forgot we learned to love over the years, that Classic now showed us. As an example, when I started playing classic I loved that it was so relaxed, no flashy crazy plays from zed or locke or so from miles away and 100 to 0 in 0,34 seconds. It was chill. You could try things out, builds you once loved that wouldn't work today. But slowly you notice some things are missing. Dragon is pretty much useless, supports have to work hard for their gold and are often not much more than a walking ward, top lane is even more of an island than it is today. These are all things that many of us forgot over the years that these were not for granted in the older days, I remember when support players were the most requested roles because noone wanted to play a walking ward with no gold, it's just lame. And that's what classic showed many of us, classic league from all those years ago wasn't so great after all.

And again, Riot tried to make the best out of it and give us what we asked for. But what did we ask for? That's not clear, many asked for support items like "today" (or just a few seasons back), while others said that these aren't "classic". So who are you going to let decide when there is so consensus on things in the player base? You can't, you will loose, hard, with every change more and more.

We asked for something that basically couldn't exist, because we couldn't even say what we wanted.

For me personally perfect classic would be around season 3-5 (because let's be real earlier seasons or beta where just a clusterfuck of whatever riot was doing back then), with some of the more "modern" things that are good, like the gates in the bases, "elemental" drakes and support items. Wouldnt exactly be classic as most would see it, but it would be worth playing more for me personally. But I bet there would probably be noone who would agree with me, and that's same for all of you guys. You can describe YOUR perfect classic experience, but there will hardly be a proper player base to agree with you.

I do not want to defend Riot here, they made a lot of mistakes, like not giving us more champs faster (or rather the requested ones like aatrox), or that they shut it down so fast after it's release, that they didn't give us ranked mode, etc. But we, as a player base and community, shouldn't blame Riot for everything. We play a big role in this as well.

Thanks for reading this wall of text. Have a great day :)


r/LeagueClassic • • 7h ago

Discussion Riot Can Go Ja-HeckThemselves NSFW

16 Upvotes

The Classic Fiasco was a Rug Pull, plain and simple.

I'm one of the players who played heavily back in 2012-2015 and hadn't returned since the release of Classic. I bought all the champs on a new account since I couldn't recover my old one, and enjoyed most aspects of the game. I thought the gameplay was fine and was content with the initial release of champions. Matchmaking was awful, but it makes sense given the backstory that's coming out.. It was a shitty move for Riot to plan this from the get go.

I can't understand how leadership thought they could get away with pulling a move like this and expect their playerbase to be okay with it. I'm in the minority of players, but I can ensure that vanguard and the buggy client will be immediately uninstalled from my PC on Jan 6th. I will never, ever, play one of their games again, let alone give them a cent.

Rant over.


r/LeagueClassic • • 7h ago

Gameplay When did janna get the reputation of being a "no skill inflated champ"?

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I remember back in the day, janna had a 9/10 difficulty rating, one of the highest in the game. She was seen as much harder to play than other supports like sona or soraka. Now she is seen as the poster child of "handless boosted support main".


r/LeagueClassic • • 8h ago

Discussion What happens to legacy skins now that Classic is closed?

6 Upvotes
  • Young Ryze
  • Judgement Kayle
  • UFO Corki
  • King Rammus
  • PAX Twisted Fate
  • Old Victorious skins

I was too young to get these skins back when they were available. Classic gave me hope that we'd eventually get "modern" versions.

Does this mean these skins are basically unobtainable for us now that the project is shut down? Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Young Ryze especially hurts. He was supposed to be part of the collection alongside Annie, Kayle and Alistar. I was really hoping we'd see him released for the Classic anniversary (lol)


r/LeagueClassic • • 11h ago

Question Bought Sun Goddess Karma - Will I Still Be Able to Use It?

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When Karma launched on League Classic, I noticed her Sun Goddess skin was purchasable in the League Classic Store - but it is not normally purchasable in modern League.

I was worried that if I bought it from the League Classic store, I wouldn't be able to use it in modern League, but I took the risk and bought it through the Classic Store and lo-and-behold, I was able to use it in modern League.

But I was just wondering - I've seen people say that League Classic skins will be going away since the mode is leaving as a permanent thing, and that they'll be refunded. Is this the case here?


r/LeagueClassic • • 11h ago

Discussion Make League Classic a permanent CUSTOM GAME mode

16 Upvotes

Please, Riot. We don't need matchmaking. Just don't take it away from us completely. That's all I ask.

PS: I posted this before, but forgot to include the word 'custom' in the title. Important difference.


r/LeagueClassic • • 11h ago

Discussion Just make it weekend only

42 Upvotes

Instead of canning it just make it weekend only. I saw the writing on the wall weeks ago. Queues taking doubt digit minutes. Having multiple of the same players in games even on different days. It's obvious to anyone paying attention there are not enough players to maintain a healthy game mode. But I think if it is weekend only it will crunch all the demand into one window.


r/LeagueClassic • • 12h ago

Question Can we atleast have classic katarina back for a few patches before the classic is completely shut off?

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I dont know how else to reach the team behind classic so here goes nothing

Please Phreak and the team,i have massive respect for you for bringing classic to us, for reviving something we truly love and cared long time ago, but you guys took a big chunk of our hearts when you took away our classic katarina

And you never gave us the true OG players any chance to play classic katarina (we dont have pbe) we didnt even get to try her 1 time, can you atleast make her available as her true classic form and atleast give us a chance to play her? before classic is gone completely?

Is this something you can reverse?

Please? those who played v2 they had all this time to play her and they still do (if they truly enjoyed her and didnt ditch her after 2 games)

can we get our small moment too, before the light dims away? please


r/LeagueClassic • • 13h ago

Discussion I bought 2 battle passes only cause Classic exists, now I regret giving this shit company any of my money

44 Upvotes

So classic exists, im so happy I can play my old pre rework champs again, I spend money on the game and this is my fucking reward, classic canceled in 3 months, thank you riot i learned my lesson, not anymore. for the record i bought the caps hall of legends pass and the tft pass, dunno if me buying the classic pass would have impacted their decision to cancel the game mode (probably not)


r/LeagueClassic • • 14h ago

Question Was anyone else just waiting for Old Swain as well?

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176 Upvotes

What a waste of time and effort. All I wanted was to be bird daddy again.​


r/LeagueClassic • • 15h ago

Other Iam gonna mis playing Old Fiora on The Old Rift without all those stupid new champions

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Even tho my Fiora games ain't great i absolutely having a blast playng her top lane just simple league no crazy champs that walk through walls or just CC your to death once they hit level 3.

They promised us it would have been a permanent game mode and they saying that never was their plan i think they only care about what the majority plays if some older player only came back for classic they don't realy care about it feels like.

Well we have 2 and a half month left to enjoy it better make the most of it?


r/LeagueClassic • • 16h ago

Discussion BRING OLD SWAIN BACK TO MODERN LEAGUE

22 Upvotes

BRING OLD SWAIN BACK TO MODERN LEAGUE


r/LeagueClassic • • 16h ago

Discussion Good thing they focused on releasing Hecarim and Lucian instead of Pre-Rework Swain.

62 Upvotes

I would have been really disappointed if I wasn't able to play Hecarim again, there would be no other way for me to play him otherwise since he changed so much.


r/LeagueClassic • • 16h ago

Question Classic Kayle Chroma Refund (Founder's Silver)

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Hey Phreak I hope this post reaches your eyes.

In the refund policy that Riot has posted about classic chromas, it says "Classic Annie (Founder’s Goth) and Classic Alistar (Founder’s Black) Chromas in the Legendary Welcome Bundle and Classic Welcome Bundle (purchasable directly or included in the League Classic Collector’s Box)" will be refunded in RP. It doesn't mention Kayle's special chroma. However, "Classic Kayle (Founder's Silver) Classic Chroma" was also a chroma like the two above except Kayle's chroma was part of the "Exclusive Collector's Box Bundle" from buying the "League of Legends Classic Collector's Box."

Here is the link to the refund policy: https://support.riotgames.com/en-us/league-of-legends/gameplay/league-classic-pass-and-content

Here is the link to the collector's box: https://merch.riotgames.com/en-us/product/league-classic-collectors-box/

I'm just hoping to get some clarification on whether this Kayle classic chroma will also get refunded to me in RP since this special chroma wasn't talked about like Annie and Alistar, but like those 2 you had to buy it from a special bundle/box.

Thanks for working on classic. I had a good time playing it.


r/LeagueClassic • • 17h ago

Discussion THE MUSEUM AND THE MORGUE: HOW RIOT KILLED LEAGUE CLASSIC BEFORE IT COULD LIVE

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I. A Funeral With a Press Release

Call it a “sunset,” an “end of its current run,” a “rotating event mode with a possible return.” Strip away the corporate vocabulary and the sentence is simple. Riot Games built a product around the memory of its own golden age, sold it to the people who loved that age, and shut it down within six months. It launched on July 29, 2026. By January 2027 it is gone. A vague promise of a return “in some form, with changes” is not a plan. It is an obituary written in the future tense.

The stated reason is the most revealing part: most players went back to the modern modes. Riot presents this as a neutral market outcome. It was not. It was a verdict on how the product was built.

II. A Product Without a Purpose

The most damning flaw was strategic. Nobody could say who Classic was for. Was it for veterans, the players who were there when League was an underdog and who might return for the first time in a decade? Or was it a funnel for modern players curious about the old game? Those are two different audiences with opposite needs. Veterans want authenticity, depth and a long-term home. Curious modern players want a short, flashy novelty. A product that tries to serve both ends up serving neither, and Classic never made a convincing choice.

Without a defined audience there was no defined success metric, and without one, every decision became arbitrary. Which champions to include, how to handle cosmetics, whether to support ranked play, how to price the pass: all of it floated without an anchor.

III. Built Without the Foundations of a Real Mode

Look at what Classic launched without. There was no ranked queue and no strong incentive to commit to the mode over the long run. Competitive structure is not decoration in this genre. It is the engine of retention, the reason a player returns tomorrow and the week after. Without it, Classic was a place to visit, not a place to live.

Matchmaking, by the account of the community, was broken from the start. This matters more than it seems, because it created a vicious cycle: a rough early experience pushed players away, a shrinking population made matchmaking worse, and worse matchmaking pushed more players away. Riot now cites declining population and skill gaps as the reason to end the mode, but that is the end of the chain, not the cause. The population was highest at launch, precisely when the experience was weakest. Killing a mode because players left, after failing to give them a reason to stay, is circular logic.

The roster compounded the problem. Sixty champions sounds like a respectable number until you notice who was missing. Classic with a capital C means the champions who defined the era, and too many of them were absent. A nostalgia product that omits the faces of the nostalgia is a contradiction in terms.

IV. The Store That Betrayed the Premise

If the goal was to monetize memory, the execution should at least have been competent. It was not. A Classic store did exist, but players reported it as buggy and poorly built, and in some regions it was effectively missing or broken. Old skins were hard to reach, and some were simply unavailable, which is an extraordinary failure for a mode whose entire appeal is access to the past.

Then came the most telling decision of all: modern skins were allowed into the Classic experience. This is not a minor aesthetic quibble. It is a statement of priorities. Visual coherence is the first thing a nostalgia product must protect, and Riot let the neon, particle-heavy language of the modern game bleed into the one space meant to resist it. The message was clear: the cosmetic economy outranks the premise.

V. The Communication Failure

The handling of the community matters too. When the people who built League’s culture, those who played in the era when the game truly shone and who turned it into the success it became, raised legitimate concerns about matchmaking, the response was perceived as dismissive: an acknowledgment of the problem with no accountability and no roadmap. For a mode whose audience consists of loyalists, tone is not a detail. Veterans do not need to be flattered, but they need to be treated as partners in a shared history, not as a retention metric.

VI. The Revival That Could Have Been

The most painful part of this story is what was lost. Classic could have been a genuine rebirth: a living branch of League with its own identity. Imagine a mode that released new champions designed exclusively for the classic ruleset, with kits and visual language consistent with the original era. Imagine new runes and masteries built to complement, rather than imitate, the old systems. Imagine new classic skins sold on their own terms, protected from modern aesthetics, funding a development team with a real mission. That was a product with a future, a loyal audience willing to pay for it, and a creative space that other games would envy.

Instead, Riot built a time capsule with a battle pass and then closed it when it did not grow.

VII. Conclusion

The closing of League Classic is not a failed experiment in nostalgia. It is the predictable result of treating a legacy as a feature. A product with no defined audience, no competitive backbone, an incomplete roster, a broken store, modern cosmetics leaking in and a dismissive tone toward its most loyal players was never given a real chance to live. The tragedy is not that it ended. The tragedy is that the opportunity, to renew League from its roots, was within reach, and it was treated as a quick opportunity rather than a promise.
What died in January 2027 was never the classic game. That ended years ago, one smoothed constraint and one neon skin at a time. The mode was the last place where you could see its outline, and it was allowed to fade without a fight.


r/LeagueClassic • • 17h ago

Gameplay 2 clips down just 82 more left before classic is gone

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r/LeagueClassic • • 18h ago

Discussion How did League actually succeed back then?

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Seeing how poorly Classic was implemented and treated by Riot, it's a wonder League of Legends ever succeeded.

What did League have going for it that made it grow DESPITE being ran by Riot games?

A few possible theories

  • Different staff and management? Maybe Rioters were better in the past?
  • A great base game that slowly deteriorated? League was fun but not without major issues. Champs like Vladimir and Irelia were cancer, season 3 had mobile manaless champs like Riven and Zed terrorizing the rift. Every patch since S2 their incompetence and greed made the game slowly worse.
  • First mover in the MOBA genre? HoN and League had a huge head start. League won out because it was more accessible than HoN and Dota 2 came out years later. Competitive MOBAs seem to be a winner take all market, very few people want to learn 100+ characters in multiple games. Once players sunk hundreds of hours into League they were locked in.

Perhaps all of these led to League and Riot's success? With the bias of hindsight it's quite obvious they don't know what they're doing and possibly never have.


r/LeagueClassic • • 18h ago

Discussion Why wasn't League Classic a separate game in the Riot Client?

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I dont know if this has been discussed before here,but for me it was a big turn off that Classic was a game mode inside the current LoL instead of being a separate game.Before it released I had imagined it like that,having the old red Play button,the old interface etc.Instead they crammed everything into current LoL alongside with every other problem that didn't make it feel "Classic" at all.


r/LeagueClassic • • 19h ago

Discussion Lack of champions is the most valid complaint but not the reason it failed. And the failure actually proved Riot right to not start with more champs

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No one is gonna read this shit, but I still wanted to express my thoughts.

TL;DR:

  1. Old champions is the main reason I like classic. So I totally understand not playing the mode if your champion is not in it.

  2. Most people are not exicitedly waiting for the champion however. Instead of playing some other champions in the meantime and anxiously checking every Phreak video for their champion announcement they are in the comments calling the mode garbage.

  3. Riot didn't release with little champions just for the sake of it. They wanted to develop this fast because long developments like 2XKO prove that this is risky. Most of their succesful projects were build by small teams in short timeframes. A barebones version with few champions would hit regardless if classic was actually something that people want to play.

  4. People just search for reasons to hate classic because they grew up playing in season 1-3 but now they discover they don't really like this version of league. League and specifically old League is a significant part of their life so it almost feels like a betrayal of their identity. So they cope.

Complaining about lack of champions is valid

I enjoy league classic and I'm defending it recently. But by far the most deserved criticism is the lack of champions.

Old champion versions is 80% of the reason why I even play classic. I honestly don't care about the slower pace, items and objectives and so on that much. Getting to play old champs again is just the main interest for me.

I was looking forward most to among others Poppy, Gangplank, Wukong, Galio, Udyr, Urgot, Quinn and a lot of them are implemented. So I got mine. If there is no champion for you to play, I can totally understand why you don't really care that much to play the mode.

More champion would have barely changed anything

But I'm almost 100% certain that more champions would at best extend the popularity by like a couple of months. If you truly cared for a version of league that is reminiscient of the olden times but simply lacked the champion you would wait excitedly. Or maybe play some other champions here and there, simply because you generally like older league more.

But most people that cry about lack of champions are just mad at the mode in general. They are not saying "I'm just waiting for Udyr and then I'm gonna no life". They are complaining that classic is not a perfect representation of one single patch or how hard it is to get runes or whatever. These are also somewhat understandable complaints but in no way would they prevent you from playing this mode if you were truly passionate about old league.

I saw one person saying they are just wating for Irelia in the classic retirement post. Irelia has been out for like 2-3 weeks now. No ill will to this person but would a person that actually, really wanted to play old Irelia not have noticed this? I was checking every single Phreak video for the Poppy announcement because I couldn't wait to play her.

The reason why Riot didn't start with more champions

At times it seems like people think Riot didn't release more champions from the start just to be evil. Obviously this is not true. If they had the capacity to start with more champions, they obviously would have done it. Sure they might have delibarately held a bit back to so they have patches and updates to deliver wich makes the game feel fresher and gives reasons to come back. But if they could have, they surely would have delivered more champs.

So why didn't they wait with the release and release it in 2027 for example?

I watched some Riot Tryndamere interviews recently and he talked a bit about 2XKO and why it failed. He basically said that most of their succesful projects were made by small teams in short timeframes. 2XKO was kinda the opposite of that. Riot probably would have had the ability to throw massive teams at classic to cram in more champions or extend the development for years. But that would have been financally risky and classic's failure itself proved them right. Classic would have died all the same and they would have wasted massive ressources.

Why people are so mad at classic

The people that are the most mad at classic are two types of people: People that are playing a lot and experience issues like one teammate being barely sentient. These people love the mode and just want it to be better.

And people that at best played 5 games and didn't care for it. These are people that actually played in season 1-3 and it was a massive part of their lifes. These people's identities is almost tied to loving old League. Perhaps they no lifed it all day after school and through the night. But now after playing this version again for some reason they don't like it. That is perfectly fine but to them it is almost an attack on their identity. Is classic truly old League? No, it is a weird algamation. But certainly it resembles old league significantly. Having some items in the game together that were never together shouldn't break that for you.

These people are coping in the most literal psychological sense because not actually liking old league now is a betrayal to them. So they search for reasons to hate it.


r/LeagueClassic • • 19h ago

Other All they had to do was copy paste all champs included and introduce vote later

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Oldschool Runescape copy pasted the game, then afterwards they implemented voting for people to make changes they wanted.

Instead we got changes we as a community never asked for. It's no wonder it died.


r/LeagueClassic • • 19h ago

Discussion Lol riot never wanted this to succeed

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Two of TONSSSS if not MANYYY reasons:

Collector’s box, it went out of stock pretty fast, saw many reddit posts + comments else where that they want to also get the collector’s box which is out of stock yet riot did not even bother stocking it and earning $$ as they are greedy ‘pretty weird’ as hungry fucks i would definitely milk the og’s with extra stock no?

Og’s even offered them to ‘re’ purchase the skins once again for classic specifically as it would obviously support the project, yet they saw the zoomies whining why the skins are not unlocked, therefore they did whatever the fuck they did modern=classic skins.

Zoomies played a game or two, called their trash votes and went back to play some weeb seraphine ultra prestige dancestripper 500$ skin.