Hey! To preface this I know Kindred is generally a difficult champion to play. I have no illusions about this. However, I love the micro of marksmen and the macro of junglers, so here I am. I've been practicing some Kindred lately but I feel like it's taking me way too long to get my 4 mark spike. I'm around silver/gold ELO so I'm very aware that this is a skill gap, which is of course why I'm looking for advice to brige the gap.

Kindred (or marksman champions in general) aren't very strong in the early game, they aren't much capable of dueling the enemy jungler, which of course I know is something to be avoided on champions such as this. Having said that, I don't know how to get my marks at any kind of decent speed. I've been told (and correct this if it's wrong) that it's difficult to reliably get marks from enemy champions, which is true. If I path top and the enemy toplaner has a mark on their head, they tend to not overextend too much. I thought in lower ELO people wouldn't have the awareness or wave control to play into this too much, but they seem to play it safe when they have a mark on them.

That brings me to getting marks from the enemy camp. I find evading difficult to begin with, much less when the enemy knows what I'm after. I tend to get some free marks when they happen to spawn on the opposite side from where I know the enemy jungler is clearing, but as you can imagine this isn't very consistent.

The marks aren't just beacons that scream "clear me!" to me, it's shouting the same thing at the opponents, not to mention nearby laners tend to keep more of an eye on the jungle when there's a mark near their lane. Since the marks spawn in a jungle that isn't on my side, I feel like getting to the camps before the enemy can is really difficult if not impossible if the enemy is paying attention, and when I do manage to invade I feel like I'm at risk of the enemy jungler skipping a or some camp(s) to come and deny me, or kill me at worst.

How do I build consistency in getting marks? I know it's a bit of a vague and general question, but any advice at all would be really welcome. Maybe I'm punching above my weight by playing Kindred at my skill level, but I really love them and I don't want to give up on playing them.