r/Gifted • • Aug 27 '24

Definition of "Gifted", "Intelligence", What qualifies as "Gifted"

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Hello fam,

So I keep seeing posts arguing over the definition of "Gifted" or how you determine if someone is gifted, or what even is the definition of "intelligence" so I figured the best course of action was to sticky a post.

So, without further introduction here we go. I have borrowed the outline from the other sticky post, and made a few changes.

What does it mean to be "Gifted"?

The term "Gifted" for our purposes, refers to being Intellectually Gifted, those of us who were either tested with an IQ test by a private psychologist, school psychologist, other proctor, or were otherwise placed in a Gifted program.

EDIT: I want to add in something for people who didn't have the opportunity for whatever reason to take a test as a kid or never underwent ADHD screening/or did the cognitive testing portion, self identification is fine, my opinion on that is as long as it is based on some semi objective instrument (like a publicly available IQ test like the CAIT or the test we have stickied at the top, or even a Mensa exam).

We recognize that human beings can be gifted in many other ways than just raw intellectual ability, but for the purposes of our subreddit, intellectual ability is what we are refferencing when we say "Gifted".

“Gifted” Definition

The moderation team has witnessed a great deal of confusion surrounding this term. In the past we have erred on the side of inclusivity, however this subreddit was founded for and should continue in service of the intellectually gifted community.

Within the context of academics and within the context of , the term “Gifted” qualifies an individual with a FSIQ of 130(98th Percentile) or greater. The term may also refer to any current or former student who was tested and admitted to a Gifted and Talented education program, pathway, or classroom.

Every group deserves advocacy. The definition above qualifies less than 4% of the population. There are other, broader communities for other gifts and neurodivergences, please do not be offended if the  moderation team sides with the definition above.

Intelligence Definition

Intelligence has been defined in many ways: the capacity for abstraction, logic, understanding, self-awareness, learning, emotional knowledge, reasoning, planning, creativity, critical thinking, and problem-solving.

While to my knowledge, IQ tests don't test for emotional knowledge, self awareness, or creativity, they do measure other aspects of intelligence, and cover enough ground to be considered a valid instrument for measuring human cognition.

It would be naive to think that IQ is the end all be all metric when it comes to trying to quantify something as elaborate as the human mind, we have to consider the fact that IQ tests have over a century of data and study behind them, and like it or not, they are the current best method we have for quantifying intelligence.

If anyone thinks we should add anyhting else to this, please let me know.

***** I added this above in the criteria so people who are late identified don't read that and feel left out or like they don't belong, because you guys absolutely do belong here as well.

EDIT: I want to add in something for people who didn't have the opportunity for whatever reason to take a test as a kid or never underwent ADHD screening/or did the cognitive testing portion, self identification is fine, my opinion on that is as long as it is based on some semi objective instrument (like a publicly available IQ test like the CAIT or the test we have stickied at the top, or even a Mensa exam).


r/Gifted • • 4h ago

Personal story, experience, or rant I threw out my failed math test

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For some context, I've always been one of the tops of my class, highest level in math, I got accepted into a gifted learning program in third grade, hell I even skipped 5th grade! But a few days ago I got my math test back and it was so low the teacher didn't even write a score, she just said "see me after class". I was scared that my mom would be disappointed, so I threw it out before going home and it's been eating at me. I'm not asking for advice, this is just a rant, but please comment!


r/Gifted • • 9h ago

Seeking advice or support Does anyone wish they had been challenged more as they were growing up?

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My 10 year old has been flagged by their teacher as gifted “across multiple domains”. They are at a non-competitive school that doesn’t do testing or grading of any kind. Just periodic individual evaluations against the curriculum. It is play-based and they do a lot of learning outside of the classroom. Their teacher has recently mentioned that although she feels they are being challenged, they would definitely benefit from doing gifted programs over weekends and school holidays. We will be trying one out in a few weeks. I have read enough of this subreddit to know that not pushing a child and providing an emotionally warm and safe environment at home is essential, and that encouraging genuine interests is great. But did any of you feel like you wish your parents had done more to stretch you to reach your potential?


r/Gifted • • 9h ago

Discussion Are qualities innate or trained in most cases?

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I have been thinking about how everything in our lives happens thanks to luck, like the place you were born in, hereditary economic resources etc... I was wondering, what makes priviliged people that live in 1st world countries different from one another. Im not necessarily pointing my attention towards intelligence , rather on things like motivation , hard work, patience and how these things are transferred in the real world. What makes someone love studying in school or university while someone else might enjoy studying on their own. Last question i promise, why do some have more goals while others just want to settle? Is it about the environment or also the way each of our brains is already structured from the start?

Thanks in advance for anyone that might want to share their opinion.


r/Gifted • • 22h ago

Testing showed highly gifted range at age 3 and 9, but at 17 showed barely above average.

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I am very confused. My child was tested at 3 and scored an overall 136. The testing was done again around age 9, same scores. Some of the scores were 19 which indicated in profoundly gifted range.

At 17, child was tested to see if he has dysgraphia. The overall score this time was 106.

Obviously, the scores were very low with anything that needed to be written. However, those same tests done verbally were much, much higher ranging from 120's to 130's.

Is this just not going to be accurate due to learning disability? I have read you can not lose giftedness as it's actually a different brain wiring and you also can't outscore your IQ.

Can anyone help make sense of this?

TIA.


r/Gifted • • 18h ago

I need to know how to increase my actual intelligence

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I’ve recently had to take a iq test and got a score of 128, I’m aware this is a high score that means I have a high raw intelligence but I’m having trouble translating that into actual intelligence


r/Gifted • • 1d ago

Discussion What is the difference in lived experience between those who are moderately and highly gifted?

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Are those who fall in these two categories essentially the same but the traits are more acute for the highly gifted? Or are there actually key differences between the two?

For reference:

  • Moderately Gifted: IQ 130–144 (top 2% to 1st percentile) — Demonstrates strong academic performance across multiple subjects, reads early, and often requires targeted pacing or curriculum adjustments.
  • Highly Gifted: IQ 145–159 (approx. 1:1,000 to 1:10,000 prevalence) — Exhibits rapid information processing, synthesizes patterns across diverse topics, and often experiences a growing mismatch with traditional school paces.

r/Gifted • • 1d ago

Personal story, experience, or rant Struggling with colleagues seeing me as a threat

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Does anyone recognize this? Im in a new job and my colleague kinda sees me as a threat, I'm making her nervous. This has happened once before. One of the issues is that I start tackling problems and come up with ideas for improvement which management then is stoked about but which puts stress on others. They don't want changes or are in denial that everything is going great. I once was told by a teamleader that my team mates get stressed cause they see me running a marathon while they aren't trained runners lol. I don't demand stuff from other people or do not criticize them, it is more bout identifying opportunities. Im gonna try to not propose anything anymore for a while but it saddens me that I can't be my enthusiastic self idk.


r/Gifted • • 1d ago

Anyone else who has good social skills, does not feel alienated and is well adapted?

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This is not a brag, just curious to see if a more positive life experience resonates with somebody else.

I’m technically gifted, though my life does not revolve around this fact. My therapist suspects I’m AuDHD too.

I did very well academically and even got a PhD later in life but it wasn’t effortless, I have always payed attention in classes (except when bored in elementary/high school), did my homework, etc. My classmates liked me, even if I was sort of a teacher’s pet. I have great friends and can form and sustain meaningful relationships with people, I actually work in an area where social skills are required. I do get frustrated from time to time when I grasp a concept quickly and my peers do not, but is not a big deal.

Anyone else? I keep reading about feelings of inadequacy to the point of doubting my own giftedness, but it was confirmed, so that’s not it.


r/Gifted • • 1d ago

I am 16 years old, I am gifted, and I hate school.

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I'm from Chile, I'm 16 years old. I've wanted to go to university for a while now, but here they don't let you in before you're 18. Are there any options abroad? Tell me about your experiences.


r/Gifted • • 23h ago

Seeking advice or support Completely disorganized and exhausted

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That's it. My brain is fried. My last week was awful, I have a ton of schoolwork and stuff piled up on my toes. And I'm tired. And disorganized. For the past two days I've spent the entire time lying in bed. Partly because I messed up my lower back last week and haven't been going to the gym. But that's not all. My family is fighting and I'm starting to hate my brother so much. He broke my window in a stupid fight. And I felt sorry for him, because I wondered why he was like that. And I wanted to help. The result? I messed up my lower back and he made fun of me and refused to help. And now he's saying he helped me. LIAR! WHO HELPED ME WAS MY STEPMOTHER CALLING MY FATHER AND MY SISTER DRAGGING ME TO THE BATHROOM BECAUSE I COULDN'T WALK AND HE WAS PISSED OFF WITH MY DAD BECAUSE: he can't afford to buy a damn keyboard for himself! The result? A few days before, they fought because my dad made a stupid comment, and I'm the one who got screwed!

That brother is an idiot. Everyone's an idiot. My brain is in the negative. I finished Heaven's Feel yesterday. I like to write about what I see and read. And I can't even do it! I can't even do what interests me and what I enjoy. And I'm so tired. Man, everyone in the world is just an idiot and stupid. And I'm an idiot and stupid too.

I just wanted to stop having to wake up early to go to a noisy place for a week. Although I did miss a week and couldn't go back because of anxiety. Even my therapist has noticed that I've been saying some extreme things with great frequency lately. I don't know. Does anyone know how to deal with burnout but still do the things I need to do? Like, I don't want to repeat a year of school.


r/Gifted • • 11h ago

Just learned im gifted today

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So I did a iq test today, and found out I my iq is 137, similar to that of the legendary Albert Einstein. I now see all my friends and family as inferiors.How should I proceed knowing this groundbreaking information, and more importantly, how do I coexist with these inferiors?


r/Gifted • • 1d ago

Discussion Is this sub full of gifted but unsuccessful people?

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Here I only see people saying how giftedness is a curse , I feel successful one’s are a minority in this sub.

My other question to you is , if you get a head start (giftedness) still underperforming an average guy in most of the areas of life or only marginally outdoing them .

Also if you look at it in a different way may be this is a curse instead of a blessing .


r/Gifted • • 1d ago

Synesthesia? Has it ever happened to you that you were thinking through a whole web of interconnected ideas and speaking them aloud, when suddenly the words in your mind began to overlap, as if five words were being uttered at once, and you could actually hear their "sound"?

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In other words, alongside it, you also hear the sound itself - primarily the sound.

Moreover, you cannot replicate these "sounds" with your voice, in real life, or through any devices or other means. You also *feel* this sound - it arises from this way of thinking.

If you would like to experience this for yourself, try thinking in terms of individual letters - apart from words, and numbers; begin weaving a web in your mind using these letters and numbers, connecting them to words and events from the past, the recent past, or today, as well as to news, motives, and feelings.

ps. Oh, I forgot, I see also your crocs in diff colors. like ultraviolet


r/Gifted • • 2d ago

Personal story, experience, or rant to be intelligent in some areas but terrible in others

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For example, I am the type of person who always stays focused on a goal; in my studies, for instance, I love solving problems. Outside of the academic realm, however, I feel completely lost—this is especially apparent in social situations. I struggle to socialize because I have certain personality traits that often lead to rejection; furthermore, I also find it difficult to work in a team. In fact, outside of my specific academic field, I am, essentially, a completely inactive person. I wonder if anyone else experiences this. My IQ is 130.


r/Gifted • • 2d ago

Possible 7yo Gifted, Please Help

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My daughter recently took the Naglieri test, she scored a 120. (94th percentile in verbal, 87th in nonverbal and 73rd in quantitative). She has received a 201 on her MAP reading and a 209 on her MAP math scores (I believe those are 98th and 99th percentiles). The district said she would not qualify for the gifted program but she is very bored in her classes. Is there anything I can do to help them reconsider?


r/Gifted • • 2d ago

How many here with ASD (aka Asperger’s Syndrome)?

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As someone who is high functioning AuDHD, I’m reading the posts/replies here and wondering just how many people here (who know it or not) may have ‘Autism Spectrum Disorder’ (otherwise known as Asperger’s Syndrome)?


r/Gifted • • 2d ago

Solo condivisione

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Ho fatto il test del wais-iv, il baars-iv, il cat-q

Si sono gifted e adhd

Lol

Ciao!


r/Gifted • • 2d ago

Over?

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Guys is it over for me?


r/Gifted • • 2d ago

Looking for friends

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Hello, I'm looking for friends since I don't have anyone to talk to.

I must say right away that I am not gifted, but I am interested in this topic.

Gender, age, and location are unimportant.


r/Gifted • • 2d ago

Seeking advice or support High PRI/FRI (125-135), average WMI (95-100), and non-native English VCI (~100)—can form philosophical aphorisms naturally and write poems effortlessly. Writing has never been an issue, given it's about connecting ideas, but dense text absolutely destroys me. Does anyone relate?

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Hey, I have been facing this issue. It's been 4 years since I actually started consuming almost every piece of media in English. Before that, I used to watch videos and movies only in my native language. I used to read in English, but my environment and schooling were heavily focused on my native language. First, I learned my local language, then my nation's official language, but English is also our official language, and then English.

But whenever I open any dense English book, it just makes me dizzy. I can read psychology and most technical books, but when it comes to philosophy, it's more like I have to remember the previous statements I've read, along with dealing with complex words that I have to look up. I have no issues reading psychology or most of the books related to my major, given that it's more about understanding than completing them.

I've also noticed that I'm struggling these days when it comes to organization in general. My bed is usually really messy, like I'm sleeping with my cardboard, clothes, schoolbags, and a few other things.

Along with that, I have started forgetting where I put my belongings. It was the same before, but it's happening more frequently now.

Sometimes, I even forget what plans I had and what obligations I had.

I'm struggling with procrastination a lot and also with inaction. Even plugging an adapter into a socket feels effortful, although I just have to use my hands. The same goes for getting my college fees paid; thinking about it only makes me feel like it's better to avoid. I'd rather stay hungry than cook anything. These aren't things that always happen, but they happen frequently.

My mind wanders in the classroom. I'm unable to focus at all. I feel restless and am not sure what to do and what not to do. Furthermore, I try, but something is just playing with the chair or any other object, fidgeting my feet.

I wasn't like this almost 3 years ago, when I could focus like a laser, except for a few things that were common even back then: getting zoned out while talking to someone despite them being right in front of me, misplacing objects, and forgetfulness. But I was full of ambition. I was known in my college because I was actually putting effort into my studies. These days, though, it doesn't matter what I pick up; also, small noises bother me a lot given they come to the environment suddenly and haven't been in the background forever, e.g.,. A friend watching reels.

I was in a kind of depressive state, but it's been almost a year, and I consider myself to be in a much better position mentally than I was back then. Yeah, sometimes my mood gets really low, like, to the extreme, but apart from that, I consider myself to be functioning relatively well. I at least go to classes. I wouldn't say I'm a psychologically healthy person, because I do have moments of deep sadness and helplessness. Likewise, I'm also an isolationist type, but I talk freely to one of my online friends and function decently in social groups.

Please reply if you have ADHD yourself or you are a psychology student or at least have some knowledge, because I have decent knowledge around it, so I want someone who is competent enough to give me direction or resources for it to manage.


r/Gifted • • 3d ago

Seeking advice or support Is my 5-year-old gifted or potentially twice-exceptional (2e)?

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My 5-year-old daughter has an expressive speech delay, but I’ve noticed that she often understands concepts independently just by observing things or looking at a few examples, without an adult explicitly teaching her.
She solves mathematical problems, identifies patterns, solves IQ-style reasoning puzzles, recognizes sight words, understands phonics, and seems to grasp early reading concepts.

For example, after just 5 minutes of introducing a math concept, she was able to solve problems I hadn’t explicitly taught her. When shown 20 apples, she could write the answer “20” independently, sometimes without counting aloud.

She often demonstrates her understanding through writing or pointing rather than expressing it verbally. I’m not saying she excels at everything, but her independent thinking and conceptual understanding stand out to me. Expressive communication is the area we’re currently working on.

Could this indicate giftedness alongside a speech delay, or potentially a twice-exceptional (2e) profile? Has anyone experienced something similar with their child?


r/Gifted • • 3d ago

The unfulfilled social need of curiosity

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Even with a situation of better friendships and clear*ish communication there still is this emotional itch of wanting to talk to other people while connecting to analyze every aspect of the social environmental behavior while deep diving into every viewpoint of emotional introspect.

I think my felt need for this is connected to an undersaturation.


r/Gifted • • 3d ago

How confident are you in your own intelligence? Would it be of any help to you if you found yourself in a life-or-death situation? To what extent do you think this "solves" it?

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Do you think that would have really helped you in a situation like that?

You might argue that everything depends on the specific situation or perhaps on your own body. But let’s focus on the given parameter and avoid straying from the question.
Isn’t that, ultimately, what intelligence was created for? Survival.

Do you, for the most part, feel confident in your intelligence or not? Honestly speaking.


r/Gifted • • 3d ago

Personal story, experience, or rant Traumatized socially by high intellect

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Hi guys, was wondering whether anyone else here has had the same experience. When I was growing up I used to understand homework and grasp concepts very quickly. Teachers used to love me and get me to present these concepts to the class. However I was too brilliant and my peers often felt threatened by my success. I was not able to get along with them socially and did not know how to downplay my intellect because I used to have social difficulties.

Now that I understand human beings, I am no longer able to study these very disciplines that used to bring me joy and happiness because I am still feeling traumatized by how it has alienated my best friends from me. I feel like if I immerse myself in these technical topics once again, I will lose my social skills which seems pretty ridiculous but is a genuine fear that I am experiencing at the moment.

Anyone else gets this