The guy deals with depression so I'm not gonna send this out of mercy. Just posting it here for the catharsis.

Backstory: MAGA relative blew up my phone today because of a debate we had two weeks ago. Everything seemed fine and amicable for the rest of that day but now I'm getting guilt tripped about being "disrespectful." All I did was ask for examples of widespread fraud and abuse and to name a single crime Anthony Fauci committed. He couldn't do it.

Anyway...

You've made being a republican such a massive part of your identity that you take attacks on republicans and their ideas as an attack on YOU personally. I matched YOUR tone (you almost ALWAYS raise your voice first) and most of the conversation was me simply asking you for examples so we can talk about them in further depth. It's on you if you feel stupid for not being able to do that. I never called you that.

Everything you accuse *me* of doing *you* ACTUALLY do. Saying shit like "typical liberal hypocrisy" or "i hate these people" while knowing full well liberals are in the room with you is *actually* disrespectful. Asking someone for examples to back up their claims is not disrespectful. The fact you think it is just shows how massively insecure you are. Good God, get the fuck over yourself. The victim mentality is unreal.

I DON'T assume i know everything. The only reason I'm able to draw on statistics in conversations is because I have to look them up. I look them up BECAUSE i know I don't know enough about certain topics to form an educated opinion. YOU on the other hand think you had politics figured out when you were ELEVEN years old and spent your entire life defending the political whims of an eleven year old preteen boy. Yet I'M the arrogant one cause I have to look things up as an adult to even learn my positions instead of just assuming I was a political genius as a child and whatever my side says has to be correct. THAT is actual arrogance. Humility seeks knowledge. You were an eleven year old kid who wanted to be like Rush Limbaugh.

Your political opinions are not some sacred thing that can't be pushed back on and NO ONE HAS TO RESPECT THEM. No one. Toughen up. If you take mild disagreements with your opinions as attacks on yourself or your intelligence then that's ON YOU! I'm not just gonna put on kiddy gloves and say "Good job! You have an opinion! You're so insightful!" as if everybody doesn't have a fucking opinion. Having an opinion doesn't make you special. If you can't take the heat then stay out of the kitchen and don't bring politics up around me like I've asked you countless times to do. Simple.

I cannot WAIT for the day of reckoning to arrive....

Everyone in my family is MAGA, so I just needed a place to commiserate. My dad and sister are mostly content to not talk about politics anymore, but my mom sometimes just randomly sends shit like this.

I’ll just preface this by saying that in all those cases, yes of course 100% I am glad the nurse or other party was there and identified a misdiagnosis, but those articles are total clickbait and don’t do justice to the 99% of diagnoses and medical care that physicians get right every day, all day. These sort of rage-bait articles have made my parents totally mistrust modern medicine to the point where they make idiotic medical decisions for themselves.

Today my mom just can’t stop going on and on about how Christina Applegate apparently doesn’t have MS and how can that even happen, it must somehow be related to the Covid vaccine, etc etc.

This situation is aggravating and has led to more burnout for me. I feel frustrated caring for strangers when I know my own damn parents think I’m some kind of deluded, “don’t know what’s REALLY going on” sheeple.

Hello, long time lurker, never posted here although I think the time has come.

This morning my father sent a link (to our extended family group chat mind you) to a Facebook clip of the Ohio Governor's race ad that took the Democratic candidates estranged mother and got her to say her daughter was lying about her abuse and rape by her father as a child.

When I sent my father the statement from the candidate's brother saying their mother was lying and corroborated that she was abused, he replied with.

"The father was arrested not convicted" "Who knows the truth" "everyone insists their truth" "we will see what the voters think."

This sentiment is absolutely nuts, defaulting to invalidating trauma and rape victims is a new low.

There is no empathy left. I'm sorry but this is insane. I'm at a loss. This person is my father and I have no clue what to do. My mother won't even say anything because she's a Republican although not really MAGA. My brothers and sisters are all Republicans and are going to let this slide so I have no where to go. Should I put him in time out? Take a break? Start going to see a therapist?

All advice is welcome.

Enjoy your day.

I’ve spent years insulting the people I’m now asking to listen. This time, I’m making a different argument.

So early voting opens up today, and my dad told me to not to do early voting as going to take me to a different voting station ​And I'm really scared because it just makes me believe that my dad is going to make me go vote for the Republican party even though I f**** hate it

This video explains support for Trump and why your MAGA family and friends would betray and hurt you, abandon their consciences, and act the way they do. If you've ever watched Fox, you’d notice that the formula is the same: There’s a “they” that is “taking” [something of status] that was promised to you.

https://youtu.be/4T8jF8BEeCM?is=iSTP8D0VG1JuMd7l

https://decodingfoxnews.substack.com/

Like... thank the actual fuck.

I don't know what I would've done if she had been. I'll be honest. Like, I wouldn't have harmed myself or anything like that, but I'm just so fucking tired of this administration taking away everything I hold dear. I've axed so many artists I've loved over the years, including Eminem for his recent bullshit with Kid Rock. That hurt the most.

But I digress, we talked over text last night and she complained that her father (my uncle) was a Trump supporter, which I already knew. I then confirmed that my dad was too.

We discussed theories as to how that could've happened. I revealed some VERY PERSONAL SHIT that only my parents and select few friends know about me. Shit that should've had my dad not voting for a pedophile like Trump in the first place. But somewhere along the way, my dad lost his morals.

That said, god, what a satisfying discussion. I was afraid my cousins were Trump supporters. But I got so much shit off my chest last night it felt really fucking good.

And for once, I'm making a positive post here. So that's a plus.

When Trump supporters try to engage with us on social media…

I love my dad. He loves me, he raised me, but unfortunately I'm half Chinese and his divorce with my mom was mutual but left him bitter, he had almost full custody of me my entire young life. I don't know if it's because I got older and started noticing, or the Trump election is what did this, but I have a vivid memory of coming home from school at ~10 after learning about Loving v Virginia, so I told my dad and he ranted about how this movement was pointless. It wasn't worth it in his eyes, and even though it was in reference to black individuals/anti reparations rhetoric, I still subconsciously knew it applied to me.

He made comments to me about women and Chinese people that I've definitely internalized as a teenager. I never realized what was happening until I heard his phrases repeated word-for-word on communities like this one. I love him, and he calls me often to ask how I'm doing. He doesn't know details about how I'm starting a masters soon in Environmental Science, I'm engaged to a North African man, I've been studying classic Chinese literature after having a childhood where he mocked my mom out of ever teaching me. I'm never planning on coming back to the place he lives because he can't see that local politicians gutted it of any joy that existed 10+ years ago. But I still call him everyday and tell him how the weather is, he's very old and tells all his friends how his daughter is away "in school abroad". It keeps me up at night knowing that he will probably never meet my future kids

The FoxBrain people in my life think the Cornell victim is not a victim, they believe she made up the story afterwards for attention, and that she *wanted* to "participate" in a gangbang with multiple guys.

(As if that was just a normal thing for 1 young woman in college to go and do one Friday night. I mean she's responsible enough to enroll in college, but somehow she also casually just engages in gangbangs like she's a porn star strung out on drugs and desperate for money?)

They're hearing from right wing media that there are text messages that somehow prove she's lying. When all I've heard and seen are the Snapchat messages the frat sent out advertising "free pussy upstairs"

So obviously they took advantage of her. It's really insane to me that anyone would think a frat house WOULDN"T engage in this kind of behavior. Like this is something that would never ever happen at a frat house.

It's beyond disgusting to know that people in your life think rape doesn't exist, and that rape victims are somehow always lying.

Fox being 100% honest about her title.

Like, my dad has maybe 2-5 years at most left. Being in his 60s, that seems young, but shit, he has heart problems his family line gave to me. Which frankly, as a 35-year-old maybe I'll be grateful for soon. I don't know.

This is not the first post I've made here. I'm sure the regulars will recognize my username. But basically, told my dad to fuck off for voting Trump a while back. Sent him a text all that jazz and even said it over voice.

Recently he told me over text he wanted to clear the air and meet at a mutual location at the end of last month. I didn't know what the fuck a mutual location meant but I assumed that meant my brother's place (since my brother is chill and not a douchebag). But the end of last month comes and goes and at literally the last day of the month he texts me saying that I'm invited to a celebration and open bar of my "step mom's" (whom I fucking hate because he cheated on my mom with her when I was like five and have always only tolerated btw) grandma's birthday. Her grandmother basically.

This was the first time I ever said no to meeting up with them in my life if I could. Number one, I thought at the end of last month we were going to meetup and clear the air or whatever the fuck. That comes and goes and suddenly you invite me to the side of your family that I've hated forever because they treat us like fucking outcasts?

Fuck you.

No, seriously.

So frankly, I'm done.

My dad is so braindead and stupid that it genuinely pisses me off. And actually, what pisses me off the most is that he's like a teddy bear. You can tell he loves his family, he loves us. But he's so fucking blinded and thinks that family means more than anything.

It doesn't to me.

Family to me is more than just blood. It's my friends. It's my transgender friends that just want to live in peace. It's my Mexican and Japanese friends that just want to live in peace.

It's me, who is bisexual and never admitted it to my dad because I'm terrified of his reaction, that just wants to live in peace.

So no, sorry. It pisses me off. But unless he calls me with the explicit intent of making up, I'm NEVER going to call him again.