r/Fauxmoi • • 6h ago

FILM-MOI (MOVIES/TV) Aaron Sorkin weirdly sexualized Frances Haugen and Mikey Madison in ‘The Social Reckoning’

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u/aquamarine-mermaid 6h ago

Men are so strange

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u/SuchMatter1884 Apparently Mother Theresa was a massive cunt 5h ago

Men gonna men (derogatory)

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u/psly4mne 5h ago

So is Aaron Sorkin.

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u/KimberlyWexlersFoot 5h ago

It’s not a coincidence he’s morphing into Jerry Springer

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u/darkgothamite 3h ago

I don't see Springer, more Eric Roberts

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u/JustSherlock I hate when people ask me this when I'm just method existing 4h ago

He's also not very nice.

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u/ConsiderationKey9438 6h ago

It’s a weird choice, but within the context of the film it’s nonsensical. Madison’s character is a shut-in who has to wear arm and leg warmers due to her celiac disease. She also is perpetually unable to find a date. Why would she even own these dresses?

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u/barbaraanderson 5h ago

And when she does go on a date, she dresses in a nicer version of what she wears to work, not this

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u/sallyhectare 4h ago

Aaron Sorkin only understands women in relation to men's desire. It's a constant feature of his work. And I say that as someone who really loves some of his work.

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u/AlmostThere4321 re-enacts the kama sutra with a sentient basket 4h ago

Interesting. That's exactly i can't stand his work

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u/sallyhectare 2h ago

It has worn thin, but I really loved the stuff he wrote when I was young.

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u/innerbootes 56m ago

I’m with you. I loved his work when I was young and I think you have to have lived through all that to sort of get it.

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u/ShimraJaye 4m ago

I enjoyed this movie more than most, but as someone from the same era -> all I could think watching was it really only "made sense" within the "Sorkin reality".

Throughout, I kept thinking of a variation on the Zach Woods Office season 8 line about South Korean soaps -> "Oh yeah, you're gonna want to have a [Sorkin] fetish. It'll be pretty upsetting if you don't."

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u/Ok_Fee1043 5h ago

She wasn’t “unable” to find a date, she specifically chose not to try to date in the movie aside from the one scene, where she was appalled by the guy and his super bro-ish ways (which was fair). But the decision to make the outfits part of her character felt very unnecessary to the story. Could’ve gone with wigs if it were about being recognized.

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u/Angryduckling-01 5h ago

He wants us to know without a shadow of a doubt these to might fuck

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u/EconomicsMedium2524 5h ago

Casting a 26 year old to play a 39 year old was the first red flag. She doesn't look like her.

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u/sharkattax controversies: girl 4h ago

why can’t we cast people that are like marginally the approximate age of their role 😭 it’s either teenagers played by 25 y/os or 40 year olds played by 25 y/os. is there a shortage of actors outside of their mid-20s ??

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u/ca_peach i ain’t reading all that, free palestine 4h ago

Yes, exactly! I think Taylor Schilling would’ve been great in the role. She’s closer in age to Frances and looks a lot more like her imo!

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u/laugard100 3h ago

I can't help but think of Rachel McAdams being cast to play journalist Sacha Pfeiffer in the movie Spotlight. In real life, Pfeiffer was around 30 yrs old during the time covered by the movie and McAdams was around 35 during filming. And they didn't sexualize her character at all in the film. Her wardrobe included the same unflattering khakis as the rest of the male journalists wore haha.

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u/katebushcartwheel 6h ago

Hey can’t men directors be normal about Mikey Madison

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u/anonymous310506 5h ago

I guess Anora set the stage for how Mikey is going to be boxed in and how she is going to be portrayed.

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u/Sad_Equivalent_1028 5h ago

quentin tarantino set the stage by murdering her in one of the most violent ways ive seen on screen

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u/FriendlyChannel3988 5h ago

well, he brutally murdered all the Manson Family members to be fair

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u/Sad_Equivalent_1028 5h ago

hers was the worst of them though

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u/lightningtrip 5h ago

Jesus, what happens in that movie? I’m never gonna watch it 

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u/Sad_Equivalent_1028 5h ago

three members of the mansen cult break into stuntman trained brad pitt's house and he and his dog kill them in cartoonishly evil ways. mikey madison gets mauled by a dog, shatters through a glass door, gets set on fire, and drowns in a pool while screaming bloody murder the whole time.

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u/lightningtrip 2h ago

what… the fuck? Sorry I asked 😭 

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u/Sad_Equivalent_1028 1h ago

its like a three minute long scene set to her wails. she doesnt stop the whole time from what i remember, its been a while but i remember commenting on how long she was screaming for. pretty brutal for a character who had a handful of lines

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u/_Meece2_ 31m ago

Its great

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u/TurnerLoose3415 4h ago

After what happened to Sharon Tate and the others at Cielo Dr. I loved seeing an alt-universe where their murderers were brutally murdered instead.

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u/GovernorMarley1 6h ago

Sorkin has always been a misogynist. Go back and watch The West Wing; the dude fucking despises women.

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u/Iwoulddiefcftbatk Michigan, the Europe of the Midwest 5h ago

CJ works since Allison Janey is such a strong actor and doesn’t take shit. Every other woman is shown as varying degrees of idiots to serve the men in their lives, so they can be corrected by the end of the episode (even Stockard Channing as Abby Bartlet was treated horribly by the writers).

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u/arx3567 3h ago

And if you really hate yourself watch The Newsroom to see even more misogynistic bullshit.

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u/sacredsquirtlesquad I’m just a cunt in a clown suit 5h ago

I fear for her career after Anora. She’s going to be fighting off that sexualization for a while. It’s hard to break out of that.

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u/Riqitch it’s called talent, sweaty💅 5h ago

It's sad how per post-Oscar career is panning out. It was either Star Wars, or Social Reckoning which is turning out to be a "between a rock and a hard place" situation. It's looking rough.

Someone said somewhere that Inde Navarette has stolen Mikey's thunder after Obsession, which has provided me with A LOT of food for thought

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u/peter-englert-pizza 4h ago

It's a little strange how a few people are trying to create tension between these actresses when there is none. Mikey's Anora performance was phenomenal. I can't imagine a future where she *doesn't* have a long and successful acting career. And she is still so young and going to get better. And I'm really interested to see what Navarette does next. She has huge potential.

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u/DougIsMyVibrator 5h ago

Aaron Sorkin writes women as props, exposition vectors, audience surrogates.

He wrote CJ Craig in The West Wing (whose character has a Masters from UC Berkeley) as unable to understand the census. He's a trash writer.

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u/Riqitch it’s called talent, sweaty💅 5h ago

What about the feet, nobody is talking about the feet 😭

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u/jennyquarx he looks like he is angry about being 4'10 5h ago

Did he get his Tarantino on? 😭

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u/barbaraanderson 5h ago

She is introduced barefeet first

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u/jennyquarx he looks like he is angry about being 4'10 5h ago

Lord...

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u/encroachzeitgeist 1h ago

and Mikey Madison expressed in interviews that she was frustrated with Sorkin's vision for her character and felt she couldn't explore the role or collaborate. must've been a stark contrast after having worked with Sean Baker

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u/Wyld_Willie 2h ago

Didn’t she even say Sorkin told her not to be authentic to the person? And she said she hopes to do a biography that’s authentic in the future?

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u/Prof_J 1h ago

Sorkin misrepresenting and sexualizing women? How out of character /s

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u/moreleechesplease 1h ago

Lol I came here to make this exact sarcastic remark

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u/littleb3anpole kendall roy pre-album drop 17m ago

Maybe it’s the lack of David Fincher, Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross, maybe it’s the lack of Jesse Eisenberg who I think was perfect as Zuck, maybe it’s my general feeling about Zuckerberg being a bin tier individual but my excitement for this movie is low despite being a HUGE fan of The Social Network.

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u/kindergentler 3h ago

Just here to say that Sorkin's hacky libwhiteguybullshit has long been plotted in the BillMaher-ChrisNolan sector of :fart noise: