I have a hard time figuring out my type because I relate to aspects of 4, 5, 6 and 9, but never fully to any of them.

For example, I relate a lot to Russell Rowe's description of type 5, especially the need for privacy, independence, conserving energy, minimizing my needs, withdrawing from the world and feeling like an outside observer. I often feel like people demand too much of me or invade my space.

But I don't relate to the whole knowledge/competence aspect of 5. I'm not particularly interested in learning things or developing expertise, and being knowledgeable isn't really something I strive for. I'm still a very analytical person though, constantly analyzing myself and others, spending most of my time in my head lol

I also relate to quite a few things about 9, like having trouble knowing what I want, struggling to take action, sticking to comfortable routines, retreating into my imagination and minimizing my expectations.

But I feel like 9 descriptions are often very focused on other people, maintaining harmony, going along with others and wanting to belong. I tend to be accommodating and avoid conflict, but I don't feel like that's what drives me. I'm generally more self-focused and protective of my personal space. Sometimes I'd genuinely rather be alone than have to deal with other people's expectations.

So I'm confused because I relate to a lot of the coping mechanisms of both 5 and 9, but not necessarily their core motivations. Does that mean I'm misunderstanding these types, or could I be something else ?

Im bored so im making enneagram designs as you do while youre already overworking yourself

Current idea for these guys is that theyre made of some kind of soft or amorphous material. SP9 is made of pillow feathers, SX9 is made of water, and SO9 is a plushie and therefore made of cotton (connection is a bit less obvious since its the countertype)

Some other notes:

- SO9 has a heart stitched on its chest because it often gets mistaken for the heart triad. SX9 is holding a heart for a similar reason but also not really
- SO9 is a doctor because of my experience lol- whenever someone is in some kind of pain, I instinctually turn into what I call a "human first aid kit" and jump in to help in any way humanly possible, even if I reasonably wouldn't be of much help in the situation
- SX9 looks like a mermaid but theyre actually a jellyfish with their tentacles all bunched up
- SP9 is holding a pocky. It is also somewhat based of what I look like in real life half the time despite being sp blind lol
- Theyre all either gonna be pastel blue or pastel bluish green

Cant wait to see yalls thoughts on it :3c finished versions in the future maybe yes
Im also willing to get ideas for other designs from yall once I get to them

I understand the difference between 3 and 4 but i want to know what they would look like in the context of this tritype and what it would look like behaviorally and internally.

The images are in order of the numbers btw (1-9)

Some are probably more stereotypical/trope-y than others, and they are definitely skewed by my own bias and perception of each types, but I tried my best in the hopes they invoke something at least. :P

Mine is: I can’t help it, I’m a 4w3 and I hate when everyone obsesses over something that’s mainstream or basic

I said id stop with the memes but I genuinely look forward to mondays 🥲

I've been having doubts lately about whether I'm just a less secretive SP5 or a super paranoid SX5. Also, if you think anything I say below sounds less like E5 in general and more like another type, feel free to point it out.

What confuses me is that I know I have both instincts in my stack, but identifying the dominant one has been tough lately. Recently, I’ve become extremely paranoid about health and resource issues, obsessively thinking about it and avoiding risks as much as possible. I’ve even been feeling kind of hypervigilant (which made me question Type 6 for a bit), which is something I’ve never considered a trait of mine, but it’s undeniable how much it's been worrying me lately.

On the other hand, I lean toward SX because I’ve developed increasingly specific sexual preferences/fantasies, to the point where I realized they’re pretty unrealistic and no one would actually want to do any of that with me. Because of that, I’ve decided that if it can't be perfect and exactly the way I want it, I’d rather just never be with anyone again and keep living the way I do, experiencing it all in my head.

I could provide more details, but these are the main two things keeping me at this crossroads. If you have any thoughts or questions, fire away.

Repost: who up reflecting on themselves through hyper specific memes (alleged 2 but the learning never ends)

these are all of the types i have interacted with in my life on an at least semi-interpersonal level (so at least 6 months worth of connection and interaction). the scale is from most to least liked (in exact order). the "hierarchy" here is based on which types i've had the most fun (💖,🩷,❤️) with vs the most conflict with (💔,♥️)

some extra notes...
- reason i "dont like" (more like struggle to connect with) sp5 is because i can never predict them! they are so successfully closed off that i become emotionally restless and intimidated
- reason i dont like sx4 and sp2 is mostly because my only experiences of those types come from those who were unwilling to acknowledge their egos, even when offered extra support.
- reason i "love" so9 is because of how open they are in communication. i also dont feel like i have to wear a mask around them.

types i have never interacted with (knowingly): sx9, sx1, so1, sx2, sx3

types i dont have an opinion on because i didnt get to know them on a deep level: so8, so3, sp3, sp9

this can be a "guess my type" post or you can assume things about me / my type based off my list

22 años, bilingual and bored

some other things to help u guess type...
- unemployed due to disability, feels weaker than everyone else and attempts to compensate through remaining independent and isolated; does gig work for new life experiences and financial independence
- not "normal", socially ostracized and cannot relate easily to others
- assertive and aggressive, but also incredibly sensitive
- persistently depressed, but remains hardworking and even somewhat hopeful for personal future endeavors
- loves physical activity, but prone to injury
- can be restless; hates staying in one place too long
- incredibly caring of friends and family, but is especially family-oriented
- afraid of being taken advantage of or trapped in social situations. becomes reactive to assert control over uncomfortable situations- quick to lash out when threatened.
- practical and grounded mindset, but prone to delusions when drained and desperate.
- "people are inherently selfish and self-serving"
- "if i cannot care for myself, i am a burden."
- "i must remain in control, otherwise i will be taken advantage of."
- dreams of living "off grid", detached from society

I’m in this loop of being certain of my type and then doubting it because of the other aspects in me, I start with complete uncertainty then come back after a long time arriving at the same conclusion, 5w6 (originally confused between 5, 6, and 3)
I relate to ENFJs a lot in general (corresponds to relating to the enneagram 2 as well, yet not so much as to reach core fear and desire, thought that it might be just my so/sx)
I see insane patterns in me that hugely relate to the heart center
Yet fear seems to be my core emotional driver
And with regard to cognitive functions am related to INFJ, INTP, or possibly ENTP (except I feel like my comfort gravitates more towards Ti and Ni)

I have read lots of descriptions and have dived into previous reddit posts that might help me, yet still no use.
Though I did leave typology altogether for a long period
I’m still willing to get as much wisdom from the enneagram, much of the wisdom is gained by first knowing your type
I’ve ditched MBTI and I’m diving into Socionics
Yet guess what
Still confused between EIE, IEI, LIE, ILI, LII, and ILE

Any advice? I would appreciate that.

So, that's all.

I don’t know if this is offensive and I mean it as anything but offensive. Whenever I’ve met a 4 or seen a celebrity 4 talk, they are so alternative on the surface but then seem so… normal when they start talking. Like they communicate so clearly and I just get them. And they get me because they can read me I feel like. It’s very easy for me to talk to 4’s. And it’s not easy for me to talk to anyone. What is it that makes 4’s so easy going and good at communication? Is it just because I’m a 5 and I’m weird too? Or do I just expect them to be weirder because they often look weird? It’s something that fascinates me about 4s. Does this make sense to anyone but me?

hey all. i am a isfp 4w3 sx/sp and dealing with an enfp 4w5 so/sp or so/sx not sure which. i’ve recently been back in touch a old 4 friend and i am really struggling to deal with him. he makes me feel a 7 in comparison lol. i feel like i am looking at a really ugly version of myself.

he is very pretentious, gatekeepy and self loathing. he acts holier than thou and dare i say it, its all very preformative to me. he is constantly throwing pity parties for him and expecting me to join in or almost for me to fix it. he is emotionally offloading onto me like im his mother or therapist. it’s like he’s vomiting all of his negative emotions all over me. it has a very clingy and needy desperation to it.

as a 4 myself i can understand feeling low and am always willing to be a listening ear but i am struggling to see what seemingly simple things can be so bad or painful that make him act this way. its like he’s taking things to the absolute extreme end of things for no reason. his woe is me way of being is extremely exhausting and hard to deal with.

he keeps taking me through these cycles of what feels like forced closeness. he will flatter and compliment and than go on about his ex girlfriends or new girls he’s talking to (after treating me like a mom/gf) or how terrible his life is (living in toronto and going out all the time with plenty of friends) meanwhile i’m stuck in our small town alone. he is so up and down with his emotions and said himself he’s always having mood swings. he’s constantly updating me on his mental health the ruts he gets into without me asking. and im sorry but things could genuinely be a lot worse for him so i don’t understand what is so troubling for him to be so incredibly outwardly negative and dramatic all the time.

i also don’t know how to help or talk to him because he only wants to talking about himself and his emotions. when we do talk less about him it’s like he gets combative and it feels like he’s trying to argue or play devils advocate with me. he can never see my point and it’s like he wants to disagree with me on purpose. he always wants to flip simple shit and turn it into things i didn’t say.

i am just feeling drained by him. i feel terrible saying this as a 4 myself but his emotions are too much for even me to handle. for the first time i understand where everyone else is coming from with the 4 slander lol yikes. i am a female 4 and have always struggled with male 4s as friends. they all have been unhealthy and incredibly hard to deal with. most men around me are 9s and 7s. i’ve never been on this side before lol. anyone know how to deal with an unhealthy 4? and tips for myself on how to never get to this level lol? thanks and much love

hi everyone! so. straight to the point. im new at enneagram. i saw it before, i tried to read it a couple of times too. but im lost because i have lots of underlying fears. but before getting into that;

mbti:entp

socionics:ILE-Ne

so. when i first saw oh you're an entp/ILE, you're a e7, you can't be something else stuff i was like dude why? im fi polr. i carry the ultimate fear of being judged by others. i mean, i don't think im worthy of love if im not useful, so i try to be my best version all the time. i give without thinking of getting something back.

but also i have very little tolerance with my kindness being mistaken for weakness. like i survived so many things in my past to let people's shitty behavior/opinions to take me back too. i have very little tolerance to failure sometimes, because my parents always had big expectations on me.

there're so many layers to my behaviors and fears, and i feel like it's impossible to have an enneagram for myself. though i think im a so7 7w6. but idk really. am i talking complete nonsense? what am i missing?

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