So i recently watched the Dahmer Series on Netflix. And i loved the Series it was great acting! And with that i also got to see more clips videos abt Dahmer on Tik Tok. But I also saw an edit of the real jeffrey dahmer. And dont get me wrong. The edits abt the series are valid for me because its mostly about the actor. But these edits were abt the real living jeffrey dahmer. And in the comments they also say stuff like they love him and that he is such a nice man and stuff like that. And my question was: isnt that a bit disrespectful for the victims and the family of them. Like, do they now he was a serial killer? Do they just edit him because of his looks? I mean would they edit an old man too? I really dont wanna hate or be mean i just want to understand the background of these edits? Because maybe i just get it wrong.

Has anyone heard of the "Jeffrey Dollmer" movie? I cant believe (actually i probably can) that they would STILL be making these kinds of movies.

Does no one think about the victims (surviving and deceased) and their families?

At what point do we say "ENOUGH"?

When do we realize that making profit off victims and their families pain is wrong? Will they ever get the respect and peace they deserve?

Let's not forget Jeffs family. His brother is still alive as well as other relatives that have never been mentioned.

Let's stop making money and entertainment from mental illness and struggle.

This is DISGUSTING and Mark Savage should be ASHAMED. He is disrespectful and has no morals.

I genuinely think Aileen Wuornos would’ve been a much better choice for season 4. Her life story is disturbing and tragic enough on its own, from the abuse and exploitation she experienced growing up to her murders and how the media eventually portrayed her. There’s so much to explore about how she became the person she was and how she ended up being seen as a “monster” by society. And no, understanding her circumstances doesn’t mean excusing her crimes.

What bothers me is that the show seems to be moving further away from what made the Dahmer season so compelling. That season was uncomfortable to watch, and I thought that was the whole point. It explored not just the killer’s psychology but also the victims, the failures of the people around them, and how something so horrific was allowed to happen. I feel like people forget that the point of a show like Monster isn’t necessarily to make you sympathize with these people. It’s to make you question what makes someone a monster in the first place. Now it feels like the show is becoming historical fan fiction. I have nothing against artistic liberties, but there’s a difference between dramatizing actual events and inventing entire narratives that barely resemble reality.

Aileen’s story could’ve explored trauma, gender, violence, media sensationalism, and the way society treats female killers differently, all without needing to manufacture drama. That’s the kind of psychological and societal exploration I wish the show would return to. I just miss when the horror came from how disturbing the actual reality was, rather than what the writers decided to make up.

I know its just a show and they added more for suspense and drama, but the one scene of the Jeffrey dahmer series that I found incredibly sad was when Lionel brought sherry to meet Jeff and they went to the diner. And Jeff was trying to open up to his dad about the things he had already done and his dad shut him down by saying ill pay for your college tuition, and Jeff just held back his tears, smiled, and agreed to go to college idk if that conversation actually happened or not but IF it did thats really sad how his dad blew him off

I know what Jeffrey did was wrong but I put partial blame on his parents, his mother was crazy, and his dad was only around when needed

For someone who went to military for good number of years he learned nothing about law and order and how easy it is for him to get caught? he is sloppy and leaves all the evidence behind quite literally, or part of him wanted to get caught?

Honestly? Yes, I think Netflix’s Monsters did the Menendez brothers dirty in some important ways. Not because they were innocent—they were convicted of murdering their parents—but because the show sometimes blurred the line between documented facts and dramatic invention.

The biggest issue for me is the implied incestuous relationship between Lyle and Erik. There’s no established evidence that they had a sexual relationship, and both Erik and Lyle rejected that portrayal.

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And Lyle especially was portrayed in a very exaggerated, almost caricature-like way. Erik publicly called the portrayals “blatant lies.”

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That said, the show didn't completely invent the abuse allegations. Their claims of long-term physical, emotional, and sexual abuse were central to their actual defense, and people close to the family provided supporting testimony. The problem is that the series mixes those real elements with speculation and fictionalized scenes without always making the distinction obvious.

Its been awhile but I’m rewatching the Dahmer series on Netflix & always wondered how could actors play certain roles like this & maintain their mental health. Anyone know how he’s doing today? Hope he’s fine after playing such a weird character and doing an astonishing job. Do actors ever lose their selves mentally or have to seek therapy after playing certain roles?

i don't get celebrity crushes often. I think I only ever had like, 1. Even in real life it's really hard for me to develop attraction to anyone around me, although I have many good friends. So, I don't mean to come across as parasocial, I know this is dumb lmao but I'm crushing hard on Ella Beatty right now. Her character in s4 comes across as so sensual with a kind of innocence about her. Am I the only one who thinks she is so pretty?

I also love the visual tones and themes in S4. I might be in the minority but I think Ryan Murphy is a genius or at least really talented. In all seasons he explores the same theme and direction: murderers but he's managed to make each season incredibly distinctive, and this time with the pastal colors and the emotionally lush undertones, it's just incredible work. I think all four seasons were amazing. My least favourite was Ed Gein. Felt too much like Dahmer in a way. Like a kind of different version of Dahmer. but Murphy has managed to make the other 3 seasons distinct from each other.

i understand a lot of people dislike the series and this season in particular because of how historically inaccurate it is not to mention how it kind of glorifies murderers to the wrong person BUT taking it as an art form in itself alone, i truly respect Ryan Murphy for this. I love writing as well so I understand how tough it is to have to come up with distinct identities for stories that explore pretty much the same avenues and themes, in this case murder. I really appreciate all 4 seasons. I hope they continue.

I’m thinking it might keep going back in years.
Dahmer: 1990s
The Menendez Brothers: 1980s and 1990s
Ed Gein: 1950s
Lizzie Borden: 1890s
Possibly Jack The Ripper?

Am I the only one who would really want to see a dramatized series about Bundy? We’ve gotten tons of movies and short series about who he was. But never really a dramatized version of how Ted went on in his daily life. How he maybe fought these inner demons and couldn’t resist. Could be curious to see, and lots to choose from I’m sure.

Netflix has turned Dahmer, the Menendez brothers, Ed Gein and now Lizzie Borden into seasons of Monster, but I don't think they'll ever do John Wayne Gacy.

My argument is that the problem isn't Gacy's crimes or notoriety. It's how ordinary his public life was. He was a contractor, employer, political volunteer and community figure whose respectability helped give him access to young men and teenage boys. Even the infamous photograph of Gacy with First Lady Rosalynn Carter fits that pattern.

Unlike Lizzie Borden or Ed Gein, Gacy is difficult to turn into gothic folklore without confronting the ordinary institutions and social respectability surrounding him. That's why I think Monster can film the killer, but would have a much harder time filming the world that let him operate.

Breaking it down further:

https://youtu.be/JgdJBUAlU8M

Netflix has turned Dahmer, the Menendez brothers, Ed Gein and now Lizzie Borden into seasons of Monster, but I don't think they'll ever do John Wayne Gacy.

My argument is that the problem isn't Gacy's crimes or notoriety. It's how ordinary his public life was. He was a contractor, employer, political volunteer and community figure whose respectability helped give him access to young men and teenage boys. Even the infamous photograph of Gacy with First Lady Rosalynn Carter fits that pattern.

Unlike Lizzie Borden or Ed Gein, Gacy is difficult to turn into gothic folklore without confronting the ordinary institutions and social respectability surrounding him. That's why I think Monster can film the killer, but would have a much harder time filming the world that let him operate.

Breaking it down further:

https://youtu.be/JgdJBUAlU8M

The Boston Marathon bombing already has the structure of a dark thriller. On April 15, 2013, two bombs exploded near the finish line of the marathon, killing three people and injuring hundreds. For several days, investigators searched through huge amounts of surveillance footage before the FBI released photographs of two suspects: brothers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. The case then escalated incredibly quickly. MIT police officer Sean Collier was killed, a man was carjacked and held by the brothers, and police eventually tracked them to Watertown. A chaotic nighttime firefight followed involving gunfire and homemade explosives. Tamerlan was fatally injured, while Dzhokhar escaped on foot, leading to a massive search and shelter-in-place order across much of the Boston area. He was finally discovered hours later, wounded and hiding inside a boat in a Watertown backyard.

Tamerlan and Dzhokhar were Chechen immigrants who had moved to the United States with their family, and the brothers themselves would give Monster an extremely strong psychological center because they appeared so different. Tamerlan was seven years older and had once been a talented amateur boxer who dreamed of progressing further in the sport, but his ambitions were damaged when citizenship requirements prevented him from competing at the national Golden Gloves level. In the years afterward he became increasingly isolated and religious, traveled to Dagestan, and consumed extremist material. Dzhokhar, meanwhile, seemed far more Americanized. Known as “Jahar” to his friends, he wrestled, worked as a lifeguard, listened to rap, partied, drank and smoked marijuana, and was remembered by many people as relaxed and sociable. That contrast creates one of the most interesting questions in the entire case: how could someone living such an apparently ordinary American teenage life become involved in terrorism? A season could deeply explore Tamerlan’s radicalization, Dzhokhar’s relationship with his older brother, sibling loyalty, ideological influence, identity, alienation and the question of how much of Dzhokhar’s worldview developed independently.

The story also becomes even more intense after Dzhokhar is captured. He survives his injuries and eventually goes on trial in federal court in 2015, where there is little dispute over whether he participated in the bombing; instead, much of the defense focuses on Tamerlan’s influence over him. Prosecutors argue that Dzhokhar willingly participated and should be held fully responsible for his own actions, while his lawyers portray Tamerlan as the dominant force in the relationship. Dzhokhar is ultimately found guilty on all 30 federal charges. The case then enters a separate penalty phase, where the jury has to confront those same psychological questions before recommending the death penalty. He is formally sentenced to death, giving a potential season a completely different final act: moving from terrorism and a citywide manhunt into a courtroom examination of radicalization, responsibility and the relationship between two brothers.

1 THE MURDER HOTEL. Come on.

2 Off the bat I'm already thinking CHRIS PINE for the lead role. There's a number of actors that can fit the look easy --

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I literally can’t think of anyone who would play this role better. The resemblance is uncanny!

Thoughts?! I mean Ryan Murphy says his motivation with these is to ask societal questions and the btk is the perfect person for this he was a “good member of the community”

> Had one of the worst childhoods ever documented

> Suffered from extreme mommy issues

> Killed his abusive mother

> Received electroshock therapy in a psychiatric hospital

> Became friends with Adam Walsh's killer

> Both drifted through more than five states (allegedly killing countless people)

> Fell in love with his partner's niece and ran away with her

> Killed her during a violent argument (the only murder for which he ever felt remorse)

> His case became the biggest hoax in American criminal history, giving hundreds of false confessions in exchange for good treatment, allowing the police to close dozens of cold cases

And that's not even half of his story. They'd have juice for a hundred episodes.

Has it released in most places yet because it came out in Australia yesterday night