r/Cloud9 • u/RichArtichoke5734 • 3h ago
Talk your shit, APA!
APA must feel so vindicated right now! I’m happy for him.
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u/DrPepperPower 2h ago
Lmao "vindicated"? Bro got 3-0ed by Furia.3-0ed by TL as well. Didn't make MSI.
What is there to feel vindicated for? This performance was shameful but it's not like it was better with him behind the keyboard. It was arguably worse
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u/AbysmalScepter 1h ago
I love APA but I honestly don't get how people can honestly think this any sort of vindication, they completely collapsed when APA played too - no First Stand, no MSI, 0-5 vs. Furia, etc.
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u/calvinee 2h ago
He was 0-5, at least Loki won a game
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u/QuietRedditorATX 2h ago
Can easily be Zven's fault, dead ADC without a lethal bone in his body.
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u/MyzMyz1995 1h ago
Sure Zven isn't going to make the risky plays, but he's also not going to get caught every games wandering around like a headless chicken or due to poor pathing like Tactical.
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u/Heliotex 2h ago
I don’t think C9 would’ve been demonstrably better with APA either. Maybe they would have gotten the 3-0 against KC yesterday but they’d probably lose in a rematch or get absolutely blasted in Swiss. The whole roster needs to be swapped sadly (maybe Vulcan stays).
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u/metalXginger93 1h ago
Vulcan is the only one worth keeping. I was behind this team fully when they showed they could beat a team with Inspired in playoffs. Now? I think they honestly need to take a hard look at every role besides support, only problem if they do is, I'm not sure Vulcan would want to stay through that.
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u/SighIsHere 1m ago
Honestly I don't think they would have done any better at all. No hate to Apa he's a great player but C9s issues run much much deeper than just one player
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u/Extension_Wish_7991 2h ago
Why is this clown talking?
He's a part of the problem as well. He can't win games either. Get these terrible players off the fucking rift. All they do is play like cowards and get dog walked the moment the pressure is on.
He's no different from the trash on the current roster.
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u/QuietRedditorATX 3h ago
Such *****y coaching too.
Sunk Cost fallacy, or Korean ship fallacy. Just because Loki is Korean does not mean he is better.
(I'm Korean, I love supporting my players. Loki and Thanatos aint it)
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u/Sufficient_Cash_2530 2h ago
neither is apa tbh
or are we forgetting how hard C9 (with APA) collapsed in split 1+2
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u/QuietRedditorATX 2h ago
I mean, Zven has been washed for awhile imo. So not a fair run for APA - who started winter great.
Tactical looks pretty good on actual ADCs. APA is still more supportive. APA can't support Zven to carry but maybe Tactical could have. Thanatos won't carry, so what could APA do.
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u/Doc_Happy1 2h ago
I can’t. I won’t argue Loki wasn’t a problem but holy shit APA is not the solution
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u/galactic-punt 2h ago
APA got run over by Furia multiple times this year what are we even saying??