r/Cloud9 • u/Alibobaly • 3h ago
Changes are necessary beyond results
I am genuinely pleading with Jack to understand that we have reached a point where if you don’t make an immense overhaul of the team’s roster, and of the staff to some degree, then this team will have almost no meaningful fanbase going forwards.
At this point it’s not even a question of results anymore. The viewers and fans are so emotionally spent on nearly all of these players after 3 full years of relentless disappointment and zero improvement to their core issues, that even winning a split will feel hollow if it’s with this team. There desperately needs to be a core overhaul to give fans something fresh to root for and something new to hope for.
I’m saying this as probably the biggest Blabber fan ever and someone that still believes in nearly all of these players individually, they simply can’t stay on this team if you want fans to still cheer for you. If you try to run this back, it won’t even matter if you succeed because there won’t be anyone still left to celebrate. Please realize that it’s not just about results anymore, it’s about the fans being genuinely bored of this group.
I’m immensely grateful for all the awesome memories a lot of these players have brought us, but you need to know when to move on.
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u/Steven_Crank 3h ago
Blabber is the 2 solo lane import tax though right? Not a ton of good options unless we go with a native top or mid. APA definitely better than Loki at this point
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u/greendino71 3h ago
I would rather lose with 5 rookie NA players than running back the same old veterans
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u/Steven_Crank 3h ago
You guys are so emotional haha. Go ask dig if it’s better to go 0-7, which we would with a rookie squad of na players.
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u/PentOfLight 2h ago
I agree with you man, these people need to understand what they are saying... There is a reason Disguised is gatekeeping the Challengers and it's because there are no good up and coming rookies that can beat even the by far worst team in the league.
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u/Yellow-Parenti1949 2h ago
DSG isn’t the worst team in the league; DIG is, and it’s not particularly close.
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u/Bobarino1720 3h ago
Dig didn't go with a team of rookies and they don't have the famous C9 systems
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u/metalXginger93 42m ago
You could could get some kind of combo of Kisno (looked solid when he had to fill in earlier this year for LCS), and Toasty. Even Yuuji who is technically NA but counts as an import cause of Riot being dumb. Idk if Thanatos or how team management feels, but if he ends up leaving that just opens more options.
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u/thatanimeguy145 2h ago
Then we will be right back here with less fans talking about the same thing. Its been 8 years the due date has come.
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u/Steven_Crank 2h ago
I didn’t say don’t replace him, it just requires a measured response. If you replace blaber it needs to be for an import or maybe griffyn and if it’s for an import, you need to replace Loki or Thanatos for a native player ect ect. Just detonating the roster for 5 NA rookies at the behest of emotional redditors is just silly.
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u/AnaShie 2h ago
Yup, I want to boom this team too but 5 NA is how you will lose to the like of DSG, something like Zamudo/Srtty/Horder with import jungle and ADC probably sound better. No idea how we will solve the gapping hole that is NA mid tho b/c while APA is servicable, I don't think we will anything with him ngl.
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u/Sicario_888 2h ago
At this point, C9 should have signed Tatu lol. If you can’t beat him, let him join us 🤷♂️
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u/thatanimeguy145 2h ago
It can be for any young rookie that can be developed or a jungler that is a vet. It cant be blaber. Its done. I would rather run 5 rookies than blaber because I know its change and we need change would we get 5 rookies no we wont. That isnt how any org works but we need the change at jungle
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u/Swimming_Gain_4989 2h ago
It's exactly what Dom said in his interview with Caedrel about why APA and Sven got subbed. Even if the players are fine after so many "traumatic" losses you need change.