r/Cloud9 • u/Cr0matose • 5h ago
FURIA vs. Cloud9 / World Championship 2026 Play-In Stage - Round 1 Elimination Match / Post-Match Discussion Spoiler
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u/Walnut2500 vulcan fanboy 5h ago
Man, fuck. I'm so depressed.
How did we regress so much between yesterday and today? The team today was not the same 5 players I saw yesterday.
At least I won't be as emotionally invested for the rest of Worlds. Can't feel worse than this!
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u/Snoo_55798 5h ago
i dont know why they would put their adc on a ziggs what is this ziggs pick suppose to do in a team fight plus the team doesnt even know how to protect their own adc cause they just leave him out and dry
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u/Duplicity- 5h ago
They were playing with ego thinking they didn't need to work hard and play well to win, you could see with the dumb shit they were doing in Game 1
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u/CatInALaundryBin 1h ago
probably mental boomed after the kc loss and then each loss to furia crumbled further.
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u/Tyrz32 5h ago
Being a fan of this team for 10+ years, you’d think I’d be used to disappointment by now. I think this might honestly be the straw that breaks the camel’s back for me to cheer on this team ever again.
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u/C9_HHBVI 5h ago
I mean im gonna keep cheering. Somehow teams like the Jets have fans. Really depressing when you want your players to win
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u/PentOfLight 3h ago
Yea I'm in the same boat like I really want to stop rooting for C9 but being such a long time fan I know ultimately I will get my hopes up again next year sadly lol
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u/OriginalQuadricep 4h ago
Same here. I used to be so excited to rep C9 any way I could. Now I just put in my time watching the team shit the bed every week and feel nothing but apathy at this point. I think I'm just gonna reminisce about how awesome 2018 was for Cloud9.
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u/topher512 4h ago
I will always be a C9 fan. But as I've been getting older ive had less time for LCS. I made it a point to watch these worlds games with C9 making it and it being in NA. So I'm very disappointed. Honestly I'll probably see everyone next time C9 makes worlds.
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u/Bot12391 31m ago
Same. Been a fan since the legendary super week. I’m done with blaber fc. He’s ass
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u/LongSlongDon99 5h ago
vulcan is pissed LMAO
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u/nrj6490 3h ago
Feel bad for him. IWD said the entire KC series no one was listening to his calls
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u/Koreanpapi007 5h ago
Yea his superstar mid lane who ditched the team once before cause his mental was so weak came back to the team only to forget how to play basic mages. Loki is a fraud hope he leaves the team again and never comes back to the team
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u/MrICopyYoSht 5h ago
The fucking mentals on Thanatos and Loki. Game not going your way? Full send and randomly int multiple times. It's like they think they're in KR soloqueue, no wonder they bombed out of LCK tier 2.
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u/brandonking14 4h ago
Blaber too! He has been doing it since the start. I'm about done with him.
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u/MrICopyYoSht 4h ago
I was done with him 2 years ago, but the FOMO whataboutism people wanted to keep him around because "what if he goes on another team and wins." Congrats to him if he goes on another team and wins, that just means the problem was with the org and his environment and wasn't him. But we ain't winning shit with him right now and haven't for the past 3 years.
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u/SquiibleWasTaken 2h ago
I am an APA fan, so I became a C9 fan this year. After spring I was thinking getting rid of Blaber would be best since he's been there the longest, a new environment would be best for both parties. But they got Loki back and brought up Zven, and I thought this was stupid because APA's biggest strength is his shotcalling ability, and even a veteran like zven gets removed for players that don't have that shotcalling or veterancy. Idk, I was cheering for Furia because this team has had the same problems all year.
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u/Koreanpapi007 4h ago
Jack should’ve never took back this reject who DITCHED the team 2 weeks before winter split. Fucking embarrassing
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u/red--dead 3h ago
I’m actively annoyed nobody is flaming the shit out of Thanatos online. It’s all focused on Blaber and Tactical when he was generationally bad. Got dumpstered in almost every game. He’s got a champion puddle. Basically a budget less-obnoxious Summit.
I want everyone to watch him play as Zaahen vs renekton last series. He looks like he’s playing with one hand. And for some god forsaken reason decides to rush bramble first item. Then game 3 against voli rushes executioners calling. He’s basically asking to get gapped in lane.
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u/MrICopyYoSht 3h ago
I did call it out. I said it reminded me of the old Fudge days when we'd pick Renekton for him to not lose the lane.
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u/Arquemie 5h ago
As a C9 fan since 2013, its awesome to see C9 go from the last hope of NA and consistent top 8 worlds to fail play ins yet again after everyone bitched and moaned about the only internationally good players NA has ever had.
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u/Heliotex 5h ago
Jensen/Sneaky would never let the team fall this far.
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u/Arquemie 4h ago
Sneaky/Jensen took fucking subbed in Hai jungle 8th place NA tiebreaker relegation team to a tie breaker for top 8 at worlds meanwhile this team...
The mental gap is astronomical.
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u/QuietRedditorATX 3h ago
No one on this team has positive intangibles.
All completely negative useless players in the clutch moments.
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u/krombough 5h ago edited 4h ago
We're actually the new TSM.
Checked out owner.
Hyping up scraps from other regions as our next hope.
Tactical.
Miss out of worlds for years, then bomb out when we do make it for a new airport speedrun record.
For real though, this team's thing used to be the last best hope for NA at worlds. Now we are just a laugh factory.
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u/Level_Record6475 4h ago
The difference between us and TSM is at least we don't quit. Jack has had like twelve different opportunities to sell, adn the LCS is a shell of itself, but they aren't going anywhere. And I would rather they break my heart over and over again that just quit when things get tough.
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u/Arquemie 4h ago
TSM spent several years getting shit on at worlds before they sold. C9 has only been shit at worlds for half their existence. Give it a few years.
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u/icecold-water 5h ago
Legit. C9 is the new laughing stock of the scene now that TSM is out.
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u/Arquemie 4h ago
I said this 1 year after they booted Sneaky, that they traded international success for domestic success and everyone on here said worlds didn't matter and only trophies matter so now we get a good NA team but dog shit international team.
We are truly the new TSM. Such a deserved fall from grace for a org with dog shit decisions.
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u/lTheElementalFlowl 1h ago
Happens when they buy into the systems. One dimensional play. They should've kept LS who actually helped C9 looks like a team that could play from multiple angles. Faker is a great example of being very versatile. This is coming from other pro players and ex pro players as well saying C9 only has 2 good comps really and falls apart after their main 2 win conditions.
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u/MrICopyYoSht 5h ago
Jack gonna take a look at this roster and the performance that they just did and think it's just fine and that no improvements are necessary.
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u/Walnut2500 vulcan fanboy 4h ago
How is Jack checked out? Am I missing something? I feel like that guy is at every C9 game.
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u/Zellough 3h ago
I've only supported TL since TSM brought in peter zhang what did I miss does Jack not care anymore?
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u/AzureNinja 5h ago
I’ve gotten a degree in EE and applied mathematics. Switched careers twice. Moved to another state twice. None of that is harder than being a C9 fan.
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u/ATMisboss 4h ago
Man same, got a degree and am working on law and I haven't felt as much pain as watching this team choke at every playoffs or international
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u/AzureNinja 3h ago
What makes it more depressing the other years was that we saw specs of greatness
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u/Lordf0wl 5h ago
C9 need to blow up the roster. Blaber’s had his day. Restart building around Vulcan.
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u/PentOfLight 5h ago
This has to be somehow even more embarrassing than not making it to play-ins at all. ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING.
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u/Heliotex 5h ago
Given how mediocre the Demacia Cup teams must be if FLY was able to go the full five games vs WE, at least C9 could’ve made semis and bowed out semi-respectfully. This is so much worse.
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u/MrICopyYoSht 5h ago
Doubt. This C9 team turns their brains off past 20 mins and is afraid, fucking AFRAID, to take the initiative when they're ahead and have tempo control. Like why the fuck are we giving up tempo for free? And when they're up 7k gold they're afraid to just end the game.
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u/C9-F1R3L0L1 5h ago
Just disband, maybe keep Vulcan, but send the rest of them away, and rebuild completely. An actual embarrassment of a year this one, we couldn't get to any international event and we choked every important series we played. This team is dead
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u/gamer5913 5h ago
Every year, every split the same damn story with the same player at the centre of it all. Choke after choke in the same style, but hey if we criticize this team yall will call us haters/fake fans/etc etc.
Kick blaber out, get an adc who is actually mechanically proficient, give loki one last split to prove or bring in some competition for him. I want the C9 back that was not afraid to switch players, take chances on talent, and that put the org above anyone else.
We finally have the coaching staff, please get them players they can work with.
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u/Asentry_ 5h ago
I was happy we qualified but fizzing out like this is a such a disappointment lmaooo
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u/buffnugget_2 4h ago
That was painful. Going from qualifying for worlds to
- Losing to TL game 4 off a throw and missing a game 5. Potentially making LCS finals and top 2
- Potential 3-0 of Lyon to losing 1-3
- Potential 3-0 of KC to losing 2-3
- 1-3 to Furia
Wtf
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u/Used_Display_3605 4h ago
We dont have clutch players, even look at C9 post Sneaky. Perkz, Emenes, Berserker. These guys weren’t perfect but they knew how to clutch up when it counted.
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u/QuietRedditorATX 2h ago
yes
Clutch isn't the right word either, but intangibles, magic, star players.
This roster has none of that.
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u/Pemu 5h ago
As a longtime Cloud9 fan, the first red flag was how excited the team seemed to be about finishing third in the regular season. I get that we hadn’t made Worlds in a while, but celebrating third place felt like a worrying sign of where the team thought they were.
Ending the LCS’ win streak against the LEC was disappointing enough, but getting embarrassed by FURIA feels even worse.
I’d love to see a complete roster blowup and rebuild, but given the current state of league esports, I’m not holding my breath. I don’t even want big money signings, just something fresh and hopeful. If we’re going to fall flat on our faces, we should at least do it with some hope.
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u/No_Meat_7628 5h ago
To me the first red flag was blaber solo diving against the enemy team with a J4 and throwing the entire game away a couple of splits back. He's been doing similar stuff ever since. He's been throwing more games than Shohei Ohtani.
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u/DaftMaetel15 5h ago
You know this roster was never winning the tournament but to be so weak mentally is unacceptable. Legit need to start from scratch and let Dom pick a team. Tactical and Loki need to be replaced immediately. blaber and thanatos should also be under a ton of scrutiny as well. Even Vulcan looked clearly tilted.
ADC FAs: Yeon, Massu, Berserker, Diable (Import), Taeyoon (Import)
Mid FAs: Quad (Import), Saint (Import), Zinie (Import), ShowMaker (LUL) (Import), creme (Import), Jojopyun (LUL SYSTEMS LUL)
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u/SavingsAd8857 5h ago
This is exactly why this current C9 roster will never be competitive internationally. They’re a bunch of chokers. How do you go from being one game away from 3-0’ing KC yesterday to playing like this? Someone please explain it to me. That’s why TL and LYON are miles ahead of C9. They don’t make these stupid mistakes that completely throw games away. It’s honestly unbelievable that Vulkan is the best player on the team. Dom told me Loki was going to dominate NA, and Thanatos was supposed to be the second best top laner in the region. It’s unreal how poorly those two are playing, especially considering they’re both Korean imports. I genuinely can’t believe what I’m watching.
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u/Cold-Ring23 5h ago
So we lost to KC who hadn’t played in 3 weeks—in a 5v4, with Yike turbo-inting, and then lost to Furia too; is this really our run? Good lord...
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u/Individual_Peace1227 5h ago
I was already not really a Cloud9 fan anymore after being a fan since the OG days but what a sad display. Also is Tactical just incapable of hitting anyone with the center of the bomb??? I swear he never hit a single center across two games with Ziggs.
I'm over as a Cloud9 fan, they look hopeless just terrible.
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u/WolverineKing 5h ago
Since this was Worlds Play-Ins...
NO SNEAKY NO WORLDS
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u/QuietRedditorATX 3h ago
Team Vulcan, No Internationals
(He has not qualified for internationals in 4 years... since Danny played)
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u/C9Systems 5h ago
Advancing to Worlds because Inspired was overseas a little too long is something else.
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u/DrSquirtle00 5h ago
that was one of if not the worst showings ive ever seen from a team, how are y ou so far ahead in multiple series and throw BOTH of them? GET THEM ALL OUT
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u/anonnoodle88 5h ago
Fitting that C9's only actual Worlds games are in their normal LCS studio... So they didn't even get to go anywhere new to play, just some regular weekend games basically
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u/silverfilms1 5h ago
Tactical is genuinely the worst player I’ve ever seen. I can’t believe they run the ziggs draft back after the performance against KC. Tactical live-spectated the entire series. Dude is completely afk and gapped in every lane. They had no issue benching Zven but then this dude plays like horseshit since the start of playoffs and the coaching staff refuses to make a change. Furthermore, you have Dom drafting like he has Peyz on his team when this guy can’t play the game at all. Complete joke of a performance. Keep Phil and start over in all other roles
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u/MrICopyYoSht 5h ago
Vulcan only human on this roster jfc. There's nothing he can do if his team literally griefs every lead away. How do you justify in continuing to pay and field this roster? You don't win domestic splits, you don't qualify for MSI, and you fall out of the fucking play-ins in your home territory.
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u/silverfilms1 5h ago
He’s playing with the worst adc on the planet as well. I genuinely feel bad for him. Just being held hostage in a complete dogshit situation
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u/MrICopyYoSht 5h ago
Tactical was fine in his initial replacement of Zven, but there's probably no difference if you swapped in Zven now lmfao. As Vulcan how do you even stay around? LYON seems so much better joining Inspired and Berserker.
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u/C9_HHBVI 4h ago
Isles has leveled up massively. I would be surprised if he leaves inspired unless they also bomb at worlds.
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u/MrICopyYoSht 4h ago
Idk I still think Isles is a lot more coinflippy 50/50. His highs are probably high than Vulcan's, but his lows are also much lower. Vulcan is just far more consistent.
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u/QuietRedditorATX 3h ago
Please Berserker wouldn't want to play with a *****y supp like Vulcan again.
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u/silverfilms1 5h ago
I agree he was fine when he initially came in. The last month or so has genuinely been some of the worst “pro” play I’ve ever seen and I’ve been watching since season 3. You’re potentially right that there’s no difference if you put Zven in, but after game 2, this dude had no business being on stage
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u/MrICopyYoSht 5h ago
His attitude on stage in the pre game is so fucking annoying to look at. Like dude, it took you 40 minutes to win Game 1 and it was loseable too, but he just slouches in chair and lays on his back like he doesn't give a fuck or there's no urgency to lock in and win the series.
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u/ATMisboss 4h ago
It's actually wild to watch him consistently getting caught before or first in teamfights
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u/NHKBK201 5h ago
Does this make C9 the worst team at worlds/play-ins? At least we are #1 at something 😭
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u/Walnut2500 vulcan fanboy 5h ago
I think so, technically. GGS lost to BDS but it was technically a Worlds qualification series, not Worlds?
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u/alm0stevil33 5h ago
I am speechless , honest to god. This team is so fucking anti clutch . As soon as anything goes wrong they fall apart at the seams. Bunch of sorry solo q ass players.
I’m so disgusted , the core of this team needs to fucking go . Blaber stinks, even fucking gryffinn would not EVER lose in this way . At least flyquest is entertaining to watch. We are fucking boring even in wins , do nothing and try to scale till late game
And these useless ass Korean solo Laners still can’t communicate and they play with so much ego for no reason just to get picked off over and over again
Blow it up for the love of fucking GOD
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u/archangel_n7 5h ago
I’m pretty over this iteration of C9 but I have no clue how they upgrade from here
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u/Tiberiusjesus 5h ago
Keep Vulcan, try for Yukino and Toasty, no idea about the rest but at this point you might as well just go with younger players and teach them the game.
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u/Individual_Peace1227 5h ago
I would rather just go this angle. There's enjoyment in seeing a young team that's learning and hungry with potential even if they make mistakes. Everyone knows what Blaber, Thanatos, Tactical and Loki will be like at this point. If you can't win with them as established players then why keep them?
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u/fereibi 5h ago
A mid laner who can play control mages, is consistent, and is a voice for the team. Too bad c9 surely doesn’t have that.
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u/yoitsthatoneguy 4h ago
APA can’t play control mages, except against the dregs of the LCS, which I don’t count.
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u/archangel_n7 5h ago
Cannot take anyone serious that thinks APA will be part of the solution for C9 I’m sorry
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u/fereibi 5h ago
Yall thought Loki was the solution though and look how ass he was. At least apa played with the team, had a great win rate, and played a variety of champs (not only being a shitter on melees) unironically. The only difference is that when apa went against fur, they had played lcs playoffs 12 hours prior and were jet lagged from a 6 hour flight. This is well rested, peak Loki lol
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u/MrICopyYoSht 5h ago
The problem with APA is his draft pool is so weird that it fucks up the drafts. C9 just needs to go into rebuild mode kick everyone but maybe Vulcan to the curb and start fresh.
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u/guilty_bystander 4h ago
Don't worry. He'll get used in Spring then replaced before solid synergy gets established.
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u/Used_Display_3605 4h ago
Tbh I dont think it was fair that APA got replaced he found huge plays that turned games around for us. As much as I love Zven for the vibes i felt like ADC was the only thing we needed to change.
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u/Disclaimz0r 5h ago
C9 is broke as a joke. They'll probably keep Thanatos and Vulcan and go budget everywhere else.
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u/MrICopyYoSht 5h ago
Then you go into rebuild mode. Keep Vulcan field 4 rookies and give Vulcan macro shotcalling control.
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u/Individual_Peace1227 5h ago
Start from scratch except for Vulcan probably. Blaber needs to go at this point.
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u/WhirlingDervishGrady Suh Dude 5h ago
I hate that I KNEW 100% C9 would bomb out in playins. If you asked me a week ago to bet on it I would have bet 100% they fail to make it out.
I barely have time to watch the lcs to begin with and honestly with how awful C9 has been the last few years I find no reason to continue.
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u/icecold-water 5h ago
Yea. I have less and less time for watching league these days, I’ll always remember and be grateful for the good times from 2013 on but the last few years have been miserable and it makes me wonder why I bother spending any of my precious bit of free time available watching this team fail in one embarassing way after the next.
This is not the same team or org from 2013 to 2018, the team has paper thin mental and the org clearly has different priorities now than back then. Sad to see.
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u/Different_Mission462 5h ago
I’m with you. Life has changed for me, barely scraped together like 5-6 series prior to worlds all year where I was able to watch. Then this garbage. Legit barely saw the team play all year and they’re done.
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u/CrustyToeLover 5h ago edited 5h ago
Whole team needs to go. First worlds in 4 years to lose to the actual worst international team of the year in embarrassing fashion. There's no maturity on this team, everyone tilts from 1 death, theres clearly zero communication.. there's no fixing this besides wiping the slate clean.
Thanatos is useless in every game, outlaned and missing in fights.
Blaber mental booms from a game 24hrs ago.
Loki sucks.
Tactical sucks.
Vulcan is washed but serviceable 30% of the time.
Oh and we draft the SAME team comps in every bo5. Everyone knows what we'll play and how we'll play it. Just disgusting. Why are we drafting early game aggressive comps for a team that's too fucking afraid to do anything before 30 minutes??
2 players that have been in the league for 9 years on this team each and they still play like nervous rookies.
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u/Koreanpapi007 5h ago
DOM kept telling everybody how Loki is a superstar player. He can’t even play basic mid lane champs. Send that weak mental fraud back to BROs B team
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u/queenslayyy 5h ago
i blame that idiot who made that post after 1 game vs KC where he said C9 got that worlds buff! xdd
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u/Kind-Variation3078 5h ago
Yeah I’m done with any of these players sadly. That was garbage all round.
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u/National-Artichoke50 5h ago
Play for scaling for once, PLEASE! Nobody cares about you getting a 2-4K gold lead early when they know you are going to throw it away every time
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u/Ok-Mine-5896 5h ago
Holy fk, what a disaster. Keep vulcan fire the rest of the team.
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u/BrilliantTheory1021 5h ago
I wonder how Jack is going to spin this? Gonna cry again and have ppl here eat it up? So tired of this org taking the fans as fucking fools.
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u/Fossekall 5h ago edited 5h ago
But I was told everything was okay because we placed third
The players aren't the only ones needing replacing. Look at the staff that has been around for years of nothing
Glad Dom got to hire his buddy who is only known for making motivational speeches. It let us win an extra series!
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u/Apprehensive_You_723 5h ago
We were one throw away from a 3-0 sweep against KC yesterday. Today we're out of play ins in an embarrassing fashion. Sometimes I wonder why I still care
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u/friendmode 5h ago
Death throes of the org. Completely squandered their opportunity getting partnered in Valorant against the odds, sharply declining results for the past 5+ years in league, no other flagship teams to pick up the slack. What's left to draw in sponsors or talent? I'm not doomering because of this specific outcome - if anything, it matches the writing on the wall that's been the trend for some time. But it wouldn't overly surprise me to see the org wind down next year or 'step back' and operate as a shell, ala TSM. Sad to see.
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u/ImaginarySense 4h ago
It almost feels like Jack has siphoned all the cash out of the org and is waiting for it to die before he just goes away from the public eye.
I have no idea what the purpose of C9 is. They don’t spend money on teams and have let their flagship game/team (LoL) just wither away and die. They’ve attracted players based on the notoriety of the org, negotiating sweetheart deals, but now what?
The shine is long gone. The org is running on fumes in any game that it is still involved in. They’re actively shying away from talent and just getting rolled all over.
This should be a case study with such a fall from grace.
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u/BjergCop 5h ago
What the fuck does Loki even do? Is he gonna go awol again? Hope he does he’s fucking trash
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u/Jjxtr12345 5h ago
Not a C9 fan but an LCK enjoyer he was literally the worst mid in the league got kicked / benched then instantly joined C9 then Dom was talking about him like he was Chovy.
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u/Bak0FF 5h ago
♻️We didn’t play like ourselves ♻️ I don’t know what happened ♻️ Definitely wasn’t a choke again
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u/LoL_Razmus hailife 3h ago
The "I dont know what happened" is my all time favorite reason offered up. My bad I thought you people were pros? How do you not have at least a rough diagnosis of what happened? Oh thats right its because you don't want to take accountability and say we got too in our heads and choked the game away. Just unlucky!
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u/NHKBK201 5h ago
Wow just wow... I know I'm still going to get downvoted like always but I knew this budget ass C9 team would disappoint. They really exceeded my expectations in the worst way possible 😂.
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u/Heliotex 5h ago edited 5h ago
I understand that the days of spending $$$ to buy a proven name are over (especially since it didn’t always work for C9 in the past), so at this point I’d rather see new domestic players. This was an embarrassing throw of epic proportions and just not acceptable for an org with as much history as C9.
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u/Snoo_55798 5h ago
look like Dom and C9 didnt learn from yesterday game choose ziggs and lose and decide to choose ziggs and get shit on tf are the coaches and player thinking that ziggs would work???
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u/Aquillifer 4h ago
We are the biggest winners of the 'fell for it again' award lmao. We are never learning our lesson from watching this team fumble.
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u/Cr0matose 5h ago
I will visit this sub in a week because I don't wanna know the levels of toxicity that's about to drop. Just remember the boys are more sad and upset than we are.
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u/Rs3ironbtw 5h ago
Wow, as a c9 fan that is just pathetic and embarrassing and I want to light my jersey on fire lmao holy fuck are they ass
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u/AbysmalScepter 5h ago
Absolutely no words. I'd like to say I've never seen a chokejob of this level, but unfortunately it's all too common for C9 over the past 6 years. Not even the first time we've been eliminated from an international by fucking Brazil.
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u/chillednips 5h ago
Alright, we had our fun, we 'broke the curse' and 'went to worlds', if you even want to call it that.
It's time to tear the house down and start over. Most of this team should not be here next year. Thanatos doesn't seem confident enough to ever carry, Blaber is such a coin flip and has been for years now, and Tactical & Loki were clearly band-aid fixes to try to solve for the Spring collapse.
I hope we don't continue to bang our heads against the wall in 2027. It's time to try something new because this ain't it.
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u/azevedus 5h ago
shit was toast from the moment we had to choose either fucking geriatric Zven who could be my coworker or Tactical
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u/Wahl77 5h ago
I feel for the players. They've been through too much with this. Just give them a reset and let them move on.
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u/EmergencyLet6825 5h ago
They have had 3 different chances to reset. I understand they had to fit tactical and loki in. But there's just no excuse anymore. If it was getting eliminated by kc in the final sure. But this is losing to furia who was 12-0 this year internationally. Its just done
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u/krombough 5h ago
Reset rofl. Man, dont you get sick of saying that year after year? This team isnt reseting to anything productive with these players. They suck vs anyone not a mediocre NA check casher.
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u/YuumiMain9974 4h ago
Think when he says reset, he means kick them, so they can move on somewhere else.
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u/Ultrra 5h ago
All because they fired LS… smh
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u/QuietRedditorATX 2h ago
I get the probably sarcasm But the Berserker roster did fine and good without LS.
The problems started when they resigned Vulcan, after he went 9th place in summer split lol.
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u/That0neRedditor 5h ago
Great job Dom! You really showed em after talking so much shit during all your co-streaming!
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u/redditmillennial 5h ago
Give dom full roster control. Get rid of tactical for the love of god.
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u/anselmann 4h ago
tactical must go, he's a tier 2 bandaid for washed up zven. no fucking way he survives the roster rebuild
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u/Effective_Fly_8350 4h ago
IDK why people are saying rebuild around Vulcan when he kept engaging on rell the entire last game. This guy just doesn't know how to engage fights at all
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u/slmkaz 2h ago
I think the problem is our Korean laners speak too much English.
You can't lose lane like this in a high stakes match multiple times. Completely excluding Tactical and Blaber you can't be down 600 gold in the laning phase consistently. And if it's because of a counterpick we shouldn't have Korean laners that we shouldn't feel confident giving them the counter pick to carry. Simple as that.
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u/RichArtichoke5734 5h ago
The only good thing about C9 making worlds is that one ugly lady that posted she would cut all her hair if they didn’t.
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u/Itchy-Efficiency-809 5h ago
hilarious how back in the day these guys would literally run gauntlet and worlds play-ins every year like it was nothing, and we would expect them to do it, and now the current team folds under any amount of pressure when the stakes are somewhat high. losing to a team like furia with their toplaner perma griefing is just unexplainable, culture is just completely dead