r/ChineseHistory • u/Nihyo_Niyuki • 5h ago
r/ChineseHistory • u/EnclavedMicrostate • Aug 15 '25
Comprehensive Rules Update
Hello all,
The subreddit gained quite a bit of new traffic near the end of last year, and it became painfully apparent that our hitherto mix of laissez-faire oversight and arbitrary interventions was not sufficient to deal with that. I then proceeded to write half of a rules draft and then not finish it, but at long last we do actually have a formal list of rules now. In theory, this codifies principles we've been acting on already, but in practice we do intend to enforce these rules a little more harshly in order to head off some of the more tangential arguments we tend to get at the moment.
Rule 1: No incivility. We define this quite broadly, encompassing any kind of prejudice relating to identity and other such characteristics. Nor do we tolerate personal attacks. We also prohibit dismissal of relevant authorities purely on the basis of origin or institutional affiliation.
Rule 2: Cite sources if asked, preferably academic. We allow a 24-hour grace period following a source request, but if no reply has been received then we can remove the original comment until that is fulfilled.
Rule 3: Keep it historical. Contemporary politics, sociology, and so on may be relevant to historical study, but remember to keep the focus on the history. We will remove digressions into politics that have clearly stopped being about their historical implications.
Rule 4: Permitted post types
Text Posts
Questions:
We will continue to allow questions as before, but we expect these questions to be asked in good faith with the intent of seeking an answer. What we are going to crack down on are what we have termed ‘debate-bait’ posts, that is to say posts that seek mainly to provoke opposing responses. These have come from all sides of the aisle of late, and we intend to take a harder stance on loaded questions and posts on contentious topics. We as mods will exercise our own discretion in terms of determining what does and does not cross the line; we cannot promise total consistency off the bat but we will work towards it.
Essay posts:
On occasion a user might want to submit some kind of short essay (necessarily short given the Reddit character limit); this can be permitted, but we expect these posts to have a bibliography at minimum, and we also will be applying the no-debate-bait rule above: if the objective seems to be to start an argument, we will remove the post, however eloquent and well-researched.
Videos
Video content is a bit of a tricky beast to moderate. In the past, it has been an unstated policy that self-promotion should be treated as spam, but as the subreddit has never had any formal rules, this was never actually communicated. Given the generally variable (and generally poor) quality of most history video content online, as a general rule we will only accept the following:
- Recordings of academic talks. This means conference panels, lectures, book talks, press interviews, etc. Here’s an example.
- Historical footage. Straightforward enough, but examples might include this.
- Videos of a primarily documentary nature. By this we don’t mean literal documentaries per se, but rather videos that aim to serve as primary sources, documenting particular events or recollections. Some literal documentaries might qualify if they are mainly made up of interviews, but this category is mainly supposed to include things like oral history interviews.
Images
Images are more straightforward; with the following being allowed:
- Historical images such as paintings, prints, and photographs
- Scans of historical texts
- Maps and Infographics
What we will not permit are posts that deliver a debate prompt as an image file.
Links to Sources
We are very accepting of submissions of both primary sources and secondary scholarship in any language. However, for paywalled material, we kindly request that you not post links that bypass these paywalls, as Reddit frowns heavily on piracy and subreddits that do not take action against known infractions. academia.edu links are a tricky liminal space, as in theory it is for hosting pre-print versions where the author holds the copyright rather than the publisher; however this is not persistently adhered to and we would suggest avoiding such links. Whether material is paywalled or open-access should be indicated as part of the post.
Rule 5: Please communicate in English. While we appreciate that this is a forum for Chinese history, it is hosted on an Anglophone site and discussions ought to be accessible to the typical reader. Users may post text in other languages but these should be accompanied by translation. Proper nouns and technical terms without a good direct translation should be Romanised.
Rule 6: No AI usage. We adopt a zero-tolerance approach to the use of generative AI. An exception is made solely for translating text of one’s own original production, and we request that the use of such AI for translation be openly disclosed.
r/ChineseHistory • u/jimliang2026 • 1h ago
The delete key of 134 BCE: how Han Confucianism won as an operating system, not as a philosophy
In 134 BCE, Dong Zhongshu submitted his famous memorials (the "Three Responses on Heaven and Man," recorded in the *Hanshu*), and Emperor Wu's court moved toward the policy later summarized as "dismiss the hundred schools, honor only the Confucians." The standard story: the best idea won. The structural story is more interesting: the most *installable* idea won.
The Han empire needed three drivers. Legitimacy: a cosmology making the emperor the pivot of Heaven-Earth-Man — Confucianism, via Dong's synthesis, supplied one. Social order: a legible ethics for a vast agrarian bureaucracy — the three bonds and five constants were a firewall spec. Historical narrative: proof that unity was destiny — the *Chunqiu* tradition delivered a ready-made teleology. Daoism had offered rest; Legalism had offered efficiency. Only the Confucian package bundled all three — legitimacy, ethics, and history — in one installer.
Then Han classical scholarship began pruning. The *Hanshu·Yiwenzhi* taxonomy filed the hundred schools into "nine schools and ten lineages" — Confucianism as the Way, Daoism rebranded as "the ruler's south-facing technique," Legalism as administrative tooling. Competition became a division of labor. Three locks engaged permanently: the Five Classics as the only licensed source code; the Imperial University and its *wujing boshi* (Five Classics Erudites) converting the canon into the standard answers of office qualification; and the Hua-Yi / orthodoxy distinction defining deviation as static. Note the archive's scar: the Qin's Xieshu Law (book confiscation) was repealed only in 191 BCE under Emperor Hui — the multi-copy texts never came back.
**Discussion:** If you were a Warring States sovereign taking bids — ren-li, fa-shu-shi, universal care-meritocracy, or wu-wei — which contract do you sign, and what does each one cure?
r/ChineseHistory • u/JapKumintang1991 • 3h ago
The Medieval Podcast: A Franciscan Tombstone in Medieval China (with Nancy Wu)
r/ChineseHistory • u/Blacksmith_Most • 23h ago
Question about Chinese scientific and technological advancements were made and recorded?
r/ChineseHistory • u/JapKumintang1991 • 1d ago
Smithsonian Magazine: Were Two Ancient Chinese Astronomers Beheaded for Failing to Predict an Eclipse in 2134 B.C.E.? The Story May Be a Myth, but It Underscores the Real Risks of Interpreting Celestial Events
r/ChineseHistory • u/LarsPiano • 1d ago
How does one collate an Ancient Chinese Text? A short introduction to Chen Yuans 陳垣 (1880-1971) si jiaofa 四校法 (Four Collational Methods)
galleryr/ChineseHistory • u/starbuckle5 • 2d ago
Appraisal Inquiry: Chinese Bronze Jue Vessel. Trying to find out if this is authentic or if anyone has the right chat community I can go to to get more information.
I bought it at a flea market/yard sale for a few dollars. Either way, I like it.
r/ChineseHistory • u/elnovorealista2000 • 2d ago
First letter sent by His Catholic Majesty King Philip II of Spain to Emperor Wanli of the Ming dynasty in China
r/ChineseHistory • u/x-psycho • 3d ago
Chinese Cannon Balls?
Found these in a store until that hadn’t been touched in 10 years. They are pretty heavy. Any significance?
r/ChineseHistory • u/Correct_Broccoli_448 • 3d ago
Was Qianlong a traditionalist or modernist?
Was Qianlong a traditionalist or modernist? He pushed for the dominance of the Manchus but was deeply into technology, that might surpass the idea of Bannerman hierarchy and monarchy in general.
r/ChineseHistory • u/JollyStatistician969 • 3d ago
Research Sources
Hello! I was wondering if anybody knew where I could find an English translation for the Xu Zizhi Tongjian Changbian? I have translated a volume or two myself just utilizing Google Translate, which can take a very long time and isn’t always totally accurate. I was also interested in knowing whether or not the Xu Zizhi Tongjian Changbian is more accurate than the Song Shi, or vice versa? I’ve read a majority of the first part of the Song Shi off the 24 Histories website, and have been using that as my primarily form of research along with the Apple Store version of the book (which is a much poorer English translation and just harder to read than the one on the website). I’ve cross referenced some facts with the translated years I’ve done from the Xu Zizhi Tongjian Changbian, but I’m worried that my translations may make some information I’ve gathered unsure or different between the two texts.
r/ChineseHistory • u/Emergency_Sound9302 • 5d ago
Why Korean people says qing dynasty is not China?
Edit: "Why do some Koreans see the Qing as a Manchu dynasty rather than a Chinese one?"
I am Korean, and my high school history teacher told me that Qing was not the history of China; it was the history of the Manchus. Although it inherited the culture and bureaucratic system of the Ming dynasty, the ruling royal family was the Manchus, and it was more of a multiethnic Eurasian empire than a Chinese dynasty. They explained it like that, but a Chinese friend I know said that the Ming and Qing dynasties were the same country, which made me curious—why are people's perceptions of history so different from country to country..
r/ChineseHistory • u/Komenouka • 4d ago
Chiang Kai Shek Scorched Earth Strategy
Traditionally in China's civil wars, in order not to let the enemy use anything, they carried out the ultimate Scorched earth operation called 堅壁清野(jiān bì qīng yě).
When Chinese troops withdrew, in order not to give anything to the enemy troops chasing, they burned houses, bridges and looted food and whatever, who could be the enemy's collaborators (China created the anti-Japan propaganda, so-called Sankou, which is "Kill all, Burn all, Loot all" policy, based on this). The KMT took this strategy against both Japan and CCP.
KMT fearing JIA carried out scorched earth operation in the city without prior notice to the citizens. More than 30,000 people lost their lives during the fire.
Changsha Fire in November 1938
r/ChineseHistory • u/Skip_2_My_Lou • 5d ago
I’m looking for English-language books about ancient Chinese myths.
Hello, I’ll arrive in Beijing tomorrow and am looking forward to finding books about ancient Chinese myths, such as dragons, as well as books about ancient dynasties, particularly the Xia dynasty.
I'm hoping to find books in English, since I’ve had a hard time finding them in Europe.
Do you have any recommendations?
r/ChineseHistory • u/AssumeImStupid • 5d ago
How did Mao and the Communists restructure from less connected militias and guerillas into a unified professional army and civilian government?
Asking because I'm currently in college and doing a presentation about organizational leadership. Title is exactly what it says; how was power consolidated to go from a loose faction of guerilla militias in their individual rural villages into a structured military meant to last as a professional standing army? What was that transition like?
r/ChineseHistory • u/Fit_Raccoon540 • 6d ago
Are Chinese indentured servants slaves in Chinese drama?
So I have been watching a lot of tiktok AI chinese drama. And a couple of series mentioned indentured servants being "sold". I am nor sure if this os a translation error but what is the status of them, especially those who live with their boss at home? But there was one where the new concubine replaced all the servants with servants loyal to her. There is another one when the main wife gave silvers akin to modern day bonuses. So what is their status? Can they marry? Do they have their own house? Do they serve a family for life?
r/ChineseHistory • u/dean_csj • 6d ago
I made an interactive parchment map of Chinese history - scrub through dynasties, click any ancient city to trace its 2000-year story

Hi r/ChineseHistory!
Whenever I read Chinese history (Zizhi Tongjian, Records of the Grand Historian, or Tang and Song poetry), I always wished I had a single map I could actually interact with—instead of flipping through hundreds of static PDF pages just to see how borders shifted or figure out where ancient places like Jiankang, Chang'an, or Red Cliffs sit on a modern map.
Over the past few weeks, I built Chronicles of the Realm (江山时序) — a free, open-source interactive historical atlas of China styled after traditional parchment maps, drawing on Tan Qixiang's Historical Atlas of China and Harvard's CHGIS datasets:
- Interactive Map (English): https://deanchen.me/jiangshan-map/?lang=en
- GitHub (Open Source): https://github.com/DeanChensj/jiangshan-map
What you can do on the map:
- Watch Empires Rise, Split, and Reunify: Drag the timeline from the Warring States (403 BCE) to the present. You can see competing kingdoms side by side (Seven Warring States, Three Kingdoms warlords, Song–Liao–Jin–Xia), check the reigning monarch and era name for any year, see dashed "ghost borders" showing what territory was gained or lost at each milestone, and toggle an X-Ray Lens to compare ancient prefectures against modern provincial borders.
- Click Any Ancient City or Mountain Pass to Read Its Story (
Trace Place): Click any city, strategic pass (Hangu Pass, Tong Pass, Jianmen Pass, Yumen Pass), or battlefield (Red Cliffs, Changping, Feishui) to see how its name and jurisdiction changed from dynasty to dynasty, which empires crowned it as their capital, and the major historical events that unfolded right there.- Try it (Tang Chang'an in 741 CE): https://deanchen.me/jiangshan-map/?lang=en&year=741&place=长安
- Walk in the Footsteps of Historical Figures (
Journeys): Follow step-by-step routes for Qin Shi Huang's unification campaigns (watching the six rival states merge into Qin one by one), Zhang Qian's mission to the Western Regions, Zhuge Liang's Northern Expeditions, Xuanzang's overland pilgrimage to India, Li Bai's travels, Su Shi's exiles, and Wang Yangming's campaigns.- Try it (Su Shi's Exile Route): https://deanchen.me/jiangshan-map/?lang=en&journey=sushi&stop=6
- Play the Map Pinpoint Challenge: Hide all city labels and test your historical geography intuition by pinpointing ancient cities on the unlabeled map using dynastic clues: https://deanchen.me/jiangshan-map/?lang=en&year=-121&quiz=locate
It runs entirely in the browser with no ads, sign-ups, or tracking. I'd love to hear what you think—and if you spot any historical or cartographic inaccuracies in your favorite era, please let me know!
r/ChineseHistory • u/Electronic_Mind9464 • 5d ago
Was Mao Zedong actually important and do anything good that other leaders could not or did he just take credit?
I struggle to find anything good Mao Zedong did that he himself was truly needed for. Was he a good fighter? Was he truly instrumental in keeping the Communists united during the Long March and Civil War that the Communists wouldn't survive without him? What did Mao do that another Communist member could not?
Any leader could have built basic infrastructure and do basic administration. What did he do post war that a Chiang Kai Shek or Zhou/Deng/Liu couldn't do? He is also responsible for disaster of the Great Leap Forward and then started the Cultural Revolution where didn't even handle any administrative or economic governance for the period.
All in all, Mao does not seem like someone who is particularly competent in anything but is revered as a great leader. Was Mao Zedong actually important and do anything well or did he just take credit?
r/ChineseHistory • u/IllustriousMode808 • 6d ago
Does anyone else feel this way when reading English-language accounts of their own country's history?
(Edit: As can be plainly seen in the post, I'm not arguing that the historiography should revert back to the Great Man theory. But how would you describe WWII without Hitler? See what J mean here?)
As an East Asian, I find certain aspects of how the West writes Eastern history puzzling. In the East Asia, people have a strong epic or chronicle-like sense of history, not only of their own country but also of other countries in the sinosphere. That sense is built around the stories of individuals: great or base, brave or cowardly, wise or foolish. Of course, I acknowledge that this kind of historiography is problematic: these stories can only be fully understood in their social, economic, and cultural contexts. I also accept that due attention must be paid to the often ignored masses, and not just to the small ruling class whose names survive in the records. Still, there is little real disagreement that history fundamentally included great figures who changed its course and decisive events that did the same. I think this is also a common pattern when Westerners write their own history, especially in popular books.
By contrast, Western accounts of East Asian history are noticeably weak on these individual personalities, the events in which they clash, and the narratives they form. I often see them lean heavily toward cultural or intellectual elements instead. Specialized monographs are, of course, a different matter; I mean introductory general histories. Even while narrating the history of the East Asia, they seem, oddly, to de-historicize it, and this leaves me uneasy. Rather than telling the story of human beings who lived finite lives, they seem to construct an idealized notion, an image set apart from the flow of history. (You may not know what I'm talking about. But you just have to compare those countries' own textbooks, or introductory surveys of their own history, of neighboring countries, or of the East Asia as a whole, and the difference is obvious.)
r/ChineseHistory • u/Latter_Floor_9226 • 6d ago
Can the son of an imperial princess be granted a princely title?
Titles don't pass through mothers, but women who are distantly related to the Emperor have been made gongzhu for the purpose of sending them off to a marriage alliance. (I think this happened in the Tang Dynasty?) So could an Emperor's nephew, that is the son of a gongzhu, become a wang for some purpose or just because they were favored by the Emperor/Empress Dowager or any other reason?
r/ChineseHistory • u/LarsPiano • 6d ago
The Shangshi 商誓 Chapter of the Yizhoushu 逸周書 and how Zhou 周 dealed with the nobles of Shang 商 after the Conquest of Shang
r/ChineseHistory • u/External_Data_Error • 7d ago
Recommendations for Chinese history creators?
I’m fine with English Content or Chinese with English subtitles, particularly interested in the Ming Dynasty but am open to any and all topics! Thank you
r/ChineseHistory • u/chad_kun5145 • 7d ago
How did a formed infantry unit get past a friendly unit already standing in its way?
I'm making a real time battle game set in Warring States China. Each soldier is simulated individually, and units of about 100 men fight in formation. The movement is what I keep getting wrong, so I'd like to know how it actually worked, not how other games fake it.
What I'm stuck on:
- Moving as one piece. When a unit of ~100 marched across a field, did it keep its exact ranks and files the whole way? Or did it move loosely and re-dress when it stopped? How much did the lines wobble in practice?
- Turning. When a block had to face a new direction, did it wheel, with one end pivoting and the outer files walking faster? Or did every man turn on the spot, so the back rank became the front? Which was normal, and when would you pick one over the other?
- Getting past friendly units. This is the big one. Say a rear unit has to move forward, and a friendly unit is already formed in front of it. What happened? Did the front unit open its files to let them through? Did the rear unit march around? Were there deliberate gaps between units for exactly this, like the intervals people describe for Roman maniples? Or did the two units swap places some other way?
- Gaps in the line. In a battle line made of many units, did units stand shoulder to shoulder as one continuous front, or with gaps between them? If there were gaps, how wide, and why didn't the enemy just pour into them?
- Replacing a tired front unit. During a long fight, how did a fresh unit take over from one already in contact? Did the tired unit pull back through the fresh one, or did the fresh one push forward through it?
- The charge. In the last stretch before contact, did men run? Did they keep their ranks at a run, or did the formation loosen on purpose?
Warring States China is where I need answers most. But if the good evidence is Greek, Roman, or early modern drill, I'll take that, and I'd be grateful for an explanation of what probably carried over and what didn't.
Book or source names are hugely appreciated. I'd rather read the real thing than guess.