r/Boxing • • 54m ago

I just wanna see this sub implode. Your favourite Prime Lennox Lewis LOSES to your most hated.. prime Deontay Wilder.

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Yes, i'm very fucking serious.

If you want to build the perfect fighter to beat Lewis, you could go with Ali's speed, chin and determination, plus young Foreman's power and old Foreman's craft. Sprinkle some of Marciano's tenacity and inside boxing just to make sure..

It would be a whole lot easier though to just design a fighter who isn't actually a very good boxer, but is tough enough to survive in there for a decent amount of time.

Lennox absolutely would get too comfortable and cocky, and start taking it too lightly. He didn't just get caught twice by great or lucky punches. In almost every fight he was winning easily he started clowning and lost his focus (a lot of commentators speculated it was his will to actually hurt his opponent that left him when the fight was too one sided). He got rocked, needing his pretty good chin and excellent fight IQ to recover for a round or two in a whole lot of those kind of fights.

Then give his opponent one of the best K.O punches in boxing history and great timing behind that punch. Then have him throw it at weird angles and times. Look for interviews from top boxers and champions from the era before Wilder broke through, talking about sparring with him. They say over and over that it was impossible to avoid because it 'buzzed' you, but came from somewhere weird and you had no idea where, so couldn't compensate to stop it happening again.

Lennox would batter Wilder, who was always able to take a lot of punishment. With the skill difference he'd be a punch bag in there.. and Lewis would most definitely get cocky and lose his focus. Which that punch being so odd and difficult to see coming.. i mean his chin was good but it wasn't great. Styles make fights.

Prime Wilder K.O's Prime Lewis.


r/Boxing • • 5h ago

There are no shortcuts. Spoiler

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This is my immediate reaction to the DDD vs. Wardley 2 fight. We've seen a pattern in the last few months of "shortcuts" fighters and their teams take, and then experiencing the consequences of those shortcuts.

Itauma skipping 12 round training, most of his amateur career. Whittaker skipping most of the amateurs as well, and trying to do a rapid jump from cans to contenders later in his career. And now, Wardley coming back after 5 months for the rematch against DDD.

The overwhelming theme of all of these results, to me at least, is sacrificing the "work" to chase the money - whether it be amateur resumes, training plans, or recovery times.

It seems easy in hindsight to call all of these out, I know. At the same time, these are all foreseeable events. Don't skip the conventional wisdom - it’s wisdom hard-earned.

ETA: Disregard the shots at Whittakers amateurs, I’m an idiot and forgot the Olympics run. Will continue to take all heat for this but point stands that I think some of these fighters could have been better prepared.


r/Boxing • • 12h ago

Ryan Garcia vs Adrien Broner argue over Gervonta Davis Fight

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r/Boxing • • 9h ago

"Lennox Lewis is the best, I lay them all to rest, nobody can test" - Lennox Lewis

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r/Boxing • • 6h ago

Biased commentary for O’Doherty Gomez?

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The dazn commentary for this fight seemed so biased to me. Yes Gomez seemed stronger but O’Doherty switched styles and really brought it for pretty much the whole fight and that really didn’t seem to get enough recognition

Anyone else got a different perspective?


r/Boxing • • 14h ago

Has Tim Bradley Become an Overly Negative Commentator?

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I’m not sure if it’s just me, my imagination, and/or possibly seeing a non-representative sample of his commentary, but it seems like Tim Bradley has gone super negative in recent times. It feels like he calls out fighters’ weaknesses and ducking constantly and more so than any other commentator, while not speaking on their positives. Every video I see feels like a harsh critique of someone or some situation.

I have mixed feelings about it. OTOH, it’s refreshing! No sucking up and favoring guys‘ carefully cultivated self-narratives for the sake of media access. Tim’s independently wealthy, doesn’t need a job, and can tell the truth!

OTOH, it seems like that’s all I see from Tim. Or, maybe my media feeds promote those videos to me - LOL - because I watched a bunch. I dunno. 🤷‍♂️ I think TB’s a very astute observer of the fight game and would love to hear more technical analysis (like so and so fighter holds his right hand too low and constantly is open for a cross in such and such situation, etc.) from him and balanced positives.

Overall, I respect his voice. Just wondering if it’s gotten too negative lately is all.


r/Boxing • • 9h ago

6 years ago today, a 23 year old Teofimo Lopez defeated Lomachenko to unify the WBA, IBF & WBO lightweight titles.

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r/Boxing • • 12h ago

According to Dan Rafael, Haney backed out of the Shakur negotiations because he didn’t receive the additional money he was promised from DAZN for willing to fight at 145.

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r/Boxing • • 59m ago

Australia is underrated as a boxing country.

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These guys always come to fight. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a fight with an Aussie that wasn’t entertaining. Especially when they’re in the ring with Mexicans. We need a Mexico vs Australia rivalry to be a thing asap. I prefer it to the Mexico vs Puerto Rico one.


r/Boxing • • 10h ago

Why professional boxers (especially ones like Tank Davis) beat 95% of wrestlers in real life

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I recommend reading the whole thing before commenting so you don't miss anything I say

We’ve all heard the golden rule of combat sports: "In a 1v1 with no rules, the wrestler always takes down the boxer and wins."

While that’s true in a phone booth or any closed space, the internet completely ignores the geography, social dynamics, and physical physics of how real fights actually go down.

Here is the real reality of the Boxer vs. Wrestler debate, broken down into 6 points:

  1. The Arena: Open Space vs. Enclosed Spaces

Wrestlers only hold the ultimate advantage in tight, claustrophobic spaces (like a cramped bathroom or a narrow hallway) where a boxer has nowhere to move. But 95% of public fights happen in open spaces like backyards, parks, or parking lots.

In open space, a boxer’s elite footwork and reflexes are a cheat code. A quick boxer can easily take a sharp step back or laterally pivot when a wrestler shoots a sloppy, distant takedown. Once the wrestler misses and hits the pavement, they are completely exposed and the boxer pressures them instantly.

  1. The "Get the Gloves" Social Contract

Let’s talk about social reality. If two guys get into an argument at a party, a barbecue, or around a crowd of friends and girls, what does the crowd say? "Get the gloves." Nobody says "Wrestle it out."

Slamming someone or hugging them on the grass during a friendly dispute is universally viewed as lame. The social circle demands a test of heart and hand speed. If you can’t look another man in the eye and throw hands with the gloves on in front of women, you lose all respect, no matter how good your grapple game is. The boxer holds the ultimate home court advantage in everyday life.

  1. The Absolute Myth that "Wrestlers Can Just Take a Punch"

Wrestlers do not train to take punches to the face. Getting hit flush with a bare knuckle fist by someone who knows how to throw their entire body weight into a punch is a completely different universe than getting bumped around on a mat. The sheer shock of a clean jaw or nose shot instantly disorients a wrestler and completely breaks their drive to shoot!

  1. The Tank Davis Exception: Why no wrestler under 6'2ft touches him

People think wrestlers dominate short boxers. It's the exact opposite with Tank Davis. Tank is the ultimate exception to the grappler rule for three reasons:

  • Immovable Center of Gravity: At 5'5", Tank is built like a fire hydrant packed with pure muscle. In wrestling, the lower man wins the leverage. Trying to lift or move Tank is like trying to lift a bolted down safe.
  • The Hammer Deterrent: You cannot casually absorb a punch to complete a takedown when the guy's hands hit like literal bricks. One mistake means getting detached from your consciousness!
  • The Uppercut Trap: Diving for Tank's hips means diving straight into a world class counter uppercut that will shatter a jaw! 90% of wrestlers under 6 feet get knocked out cold by him!
  1. The "Clout Ratio": It’s a Win Win for the Boxer

Look at how the footage plays out socially. Because wrestlers need tight spaces to guarantee a win, most wrestler victories happen in isolated areas with no crowds around to record it. On the flip side, boxers win in wide open, public spaces where everyone already has their phones out.

This means that if a boxer loses, barely anyone sees it. But if a boxer whoops a wrestler in a parking lot or a backyard, it’s captured from five different angles, goes viral, and gets seen by millions. The boxer literally gets a statistical win win for their reputation, while the wrestler risks getting clowned on the internet forever!

  1. Why Most Fighting Videos Feature Wrestlers Winning

You’ve probably seen a ton of viral clips of grapplers dominating strikers, but don't let the internet fool you. The vast majority of those videos feature amateur or half assed boxers who haven't mastered actual defense.

It is a statistical fact that it is much easier and faster to get good enough at wrestling to win a raw street fight than it is to become a good boxer! Boxing is infinitely more complicated, a casual wrestler just needs basic conditioning and simple takedown mechanics to barrel forward.

Because of this, for a boxer to win on camera, they have to be really good with their distance and timing. If a half assed boxer panics or misses, the wrestler initiates a clutch and neutralizes their power. The videos you see aren't proof that wrestling is the superior art, they are just proof of what happens when a low level striker lacks the elite, boxing reflexes required to keep a grappler off them.

Conclusion: The Learning Curve

Think about the mastery. It takes years of training to build the millimeter precise reflexes, distance management, and head movement of a top tier boxer. You cannot learn that in a year. But if an elite boxer spends just one or two years purely learning wrestling defense (the sprawl) to neutralize the takedown? They become an un-killable human weapon.

And that is why ladies and gentlemen, Elite boxers beat most wrestlers

Change my mind.


r/Boxing • • 12h ago

[FIGHT THREAD] Daniel Dubois vs Fabio Wardley II & Live round-by-round updates

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DATE Saturday 17th October 2026

LOCATION O2 Arena, London, UK

TELEVISION DAZN PPV (Selected Worldwide)

TIME 7pm (London), 11am (Los Angeles), 2pm (New York), 4am Sunday (Sydney)


Daniel Dubois vs Fabio Wardley

12 Rounds

WBO World Heavyweight Title

Daniel Dubois vs Fabio Wardley
23(22)-3-0 RECORD 20(19)-1-1
29 AGE 31
6'5" HEIGHT 6'5"
78" REACH 78"
253.5 lbs WEIGHT 248.25 lbs
Orthodox STANCE Orthodox
London, UK HOMETOWN Ipswich, UK
4(4)-1-0 LAST FIVE 3(3)-1-1

Undercard

  • Louie O'Doherty vs Michael Gomez Jnr
  • Bakhodir Jalolov vs Solomon Dacres
  • Nelson Birchall vs Levi Giles
  • Tony Curtis vs Kerim Agius
  • Leighton Birchall vs Alejandro Morales Chazaro
  • Manny Safari vs Jake Pollard
  • Fawas Aborode vs Rashid Omar
  • Adam Olaniyan vs Dan Garber
  • Zayn Ahmed vs Kasey Bradnum
  • Aaron Noriega vs Leonardo Baez
  • Issiah Hamilton-Allen vs Jensen Irving

Live Round-By-Round Coverage

Daniel Dubois vs Fabio Wardley

Round 1

Last time Dubois was down twice but got his man out in the 11th round. What's in store tonight? Huge shot from Dubois AND WARDLEY IS KEPT UP BY THE ROPES! IT'S A STANDING COUNT! Wardley's okay to continue, but his legs have gone in the opening seconds. Dubois taking his time. Is that a good idea? Wardley is still hurt. Now Dubois goes for the kill with Wardley covering up on the ropes. But the Ipswich man survives. It 's calmed down now, and I'm not sure this is a good idea for DDD. Big right from Dubois turns his man. Wardley does look a bit more with it now. Has Dubois let him off the hook? Wardley gets countered. DUBOIS IS ALL OVER HIM! SURELY THIS IS GOING TO BE STOPPED! THE REFEREE LET'S HIM SURVIVE. BUT HOW LONG HAS HE GOT LEFT IN HIM?

Dubois 10-8 Wardley

Round 2

It's a slower start to the second, much to FW's relief. Wardley's punches are way off the pace. But he does land a right there, but nothing to get Dubois's attention. Jab from Dubois. Wardley ties up, and Dubois leans in on him. Wardley's energy bar is almost empty. Big right DDD. Wardley misses by a mile, and Dubois scores with a soft body shot. Again, FW misses by a mile and Dubois counters him. DUBOIS LANDS A BIG RIGHT AND WARDLEY IS IN TROUBLE AGAIN! DUBOIS LANDING BOMBS WITH WARDLEY IN THE CORNER! THE TOWEL COMES IN! IT'S OVER!

DUBOIS WINS BY ROUND 2 TKO


r/Boxing • • 12h ago

What do boxers do on the day of their fight?

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Serious question, when a boxer is fighting at say 10pm what do they do all day before? Must be hard trying to stay in the right mindset but keeping relaxed, eating the right foods, resting but not being too quiet all day.

I’m genuinely interested.


r/Boxing • • 17h ago

Deonte Wilder's 12th pro fight vs 400+ pound boxer

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r/Boxing • • 11h ago

[FIGHT THREAD] Sebastian Fundora vs Ermal Hadribeaj

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Main card starts at 8pm EST on DAZN/TNT with an estimated ring walk of 11pm EST.

Undercard:

Brandon Figueroa vs. Tomoki Kameda

Armando Reséndiz vs. Koen Mazoudier

Marco Romero vs. Braulio Ferreira

Jaime Osuna vs. Cristian Cangelosi

David Garcia vs. Angel Carrillo


r/Boxing • • 10h ago

Dmitry Bivol defeated Callum Smith in the amateurs at the Bocskai Memorial Tournament in 2012. Now they're slated to fight in the pros on December 12th.

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📆 February 2012, Hungary.

On the top of the pedestal - young Dmitry Bivol u/bivol_d. He becomes the winner of the prestigious international amateur Bocskai Memorial Tournament (Ishtwan Bochkai Memorial), winning gold in the 75 kg weight category.

But one of the most remarkable episodes of the tournament was the quarterfinals. Then, a 22-year-old Liverpool native Callum Smith stepped into the ring against a promising Russian boxer. Their first meeting ended with a confident victory of Dmitry with a score of 11:7.

Back then, it was just one of the duels on the way to a big career. Today is a story that gets to be continued.

After almost 14 years, Bivol and Smith will meet again in the ring, but now already in the star status of world boxing. Behind Dmitry are the WBA Super, IBF, WBO, IBO and The Ring magazine championship titles. Smith, in his turn, won the WBA and The Ring in the second middleweight titles.

🔜 Their paths will cross again in Yekaterinburg on December 12. This time there is not a victory in an amateur tournament at stake, but a new stage in the history of the confrontation between two renowned professional boxers.


r/Boxing • • 5h ago

[SPOILER] Daniel Dubois vs. Fabio Wardley Spoiler

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r/Boxing • • 9h ago

Dan Rafael: “BREAKING: Per source, tonight’s Figueroa vs. Kameda fight has been canceled after Figueroa became ill Friday night after his weight cut that caused him to miss weight and be stripped of the WBA featherweight title.”

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r/Boxing • • 2h ago

Tomoki Kameda has released a statement following the cancellation of his WBA Featherweight Title fight against Brandon Figueroa indicating that he will fight for the vacant title next

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r/Boxing • • 7h ago

Sebastian Fundora promoter Sampson Lewkowicz says Boots vs Fundora has to be a 50/50 split or no deal: “It will not be an easy negotiation”

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r/Boxing • • 5h ago

[ Spoiler ] Filip Hrgović face off with the winner of the Daniel Dubois-Fabio Wardley match. Spoiler

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r/Boxing • • 17h ago

Daniel Dubois' funniest moments

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r/Boxing • • 4h ago

[SPOILER] Daniel Dubois vs Fabio Wardley 2 | FIGHT HIGHLIGHTS Spoiler

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r/Boxing • • 12h ago

Fabio Wardley reflects on his sparring session with the legendary Oleksandr Usyk

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r/Boxing • • 5h ago

[SPOILER] Main event loser's post fight interview Spoiler

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r/Boxing • • 1h ago

[SPOILER] Filip Hrgovic's BRUTAL review of the heavyweight division 😂 Spoiler

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