Michael "Wags" Wagner

(My favorite character - played by David Costabile)

I'm currently in season 3 and i feel that Wendy is so bad for Axe. Obviously she should take her husband's side but that doesn't mean she just misuses her position of Axe's friend.

I started a petition for a limited Billions continuation.

I don’t want Season 7 undone. I liked where the finale left everyone. Axe is back in New York with Wags. Wendy is leading Mental. Taylor left to build the Taylor Mason Foundation. Chuck returned to his work.

That is exactly why I think there is another story.

Set it a few years later and see where these people ended up, how they changed, and what happens when their paths cross again.

The financial world has changed too. AI, prediction markets, private credit, crypto, sovereign capital, private markets, sports ownership, media, and political influence all fit naturally into the kind of stories Billions told.

I’m not asking for another seven seasons. I think a focused 6 to 8 episode continuation makes more sense.

Ideally, bring back Axe, Chuck, Wendy, Wags, Taylor, and as much of the original supporting cast as fits.

If you’d watch it, sign here:

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I’d also like to hear what people here think. Would you want Billions back, or should Season 7 stay the final chapter?

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Maybe I’m overthinking here but my mom has been a stron dominating personality and thanks to that I tend to navigate toward being a sub. But not to the extent chuck is. His mom - who comes and goes in episodes seems such a sub that I feel the script writers didn’t think this through. But love billions regardless. Such a mind-fucking show.

For fu@cks sake!
Yes!

How did that show receive so many positive ratings?

Whereas a casino, like a fungus, will thrive in any dank climate."

-Senator Joe Scolari

(Sean Patrick Reilly)

Easily the worst television I’ve ever watched. The thinnest of storylines just to watch a bunch of soft core porn of highly unlikeable characters.

🫠

It literally doesn’t hit the same, are seasons 6 & 7 even worth it?

I think season two Chuck suited his personality best. Beardless was lowkey a mistake imo, makes him significantly less scary. I understand the entire fresh start to the new character arc part, but probs should’ve done something different imo.

I've been binging and am in Season 3. I thought after Lara took off with the kids and then came home all was good. Then she's looking into how she's looking into what she's entitled to. Was this her just not getting over the lie or Axe getting arrested and not looking great at winning?

Then I'm at a scene where she's talking about 50/50 with the kids and this and that. What did I miss? She couldn't hack that he may have to go away for awhile?

First, it is the duo creator of Billions has new financial drama in casino theme. Now. another one pop up in Miami. Thanks to our stock market is in the high point of roller coaster ride and still keeps going like Energizer bunny.

buenas, termine de ver Billions hasta la temporada 4 en Paramount+, pero no encuentro streaming en Argentina que tengan el resto de las temporadas, por tema de limitaciones, regiones, etc etc. Alguna sitio en particular o streaming que se me este escapando? como hicieron ustedes?

Billions | S01/E07 | The Punch

Another great 'mirror' episode!

Watching both Bobby and Chuck navigate their personal worlds after the fallout from that disastrous meeting is funny as hell. Both men have become reckless, but in very different directions. The great thing about how they're both spiraling is that we can see here, in Season 1, precisely the shape the fallout for each will take.

Bobby's spiral makes sense in and of itself. It's no big spoiler that he knocks that guy down after driving his kids home drunk. It's the impetus of the entire episode. But it's the fallout that's the priority here. For Lara, it highlights how privileged her kids are acting, and she undertakes to teach them the value of the lives they live. For Bobby, it begins to cement the 'fuck it, I can do whatever the fuck I want' mentality that'll become his eventual downfall.

The same holds true for Chuck, though in Chuck's case, it's egotistic recklessness. He barely won Connerty's trust/respect back after episode and the horseshittery he pulls in this episode is (in my opinion) fundamentally worse. Bobby's a multibillionaire, where the only thing keeping him where he is is his own appetite for success. If HE falls, he's got a literal mountain of cash to protect him. Sure, yes, Chuck's got his blind trust with Lordy knows how many millions in it, but money isn't Chuck's prime motivator.

It's power and influence that drives Chuck. Manipulating Connerty the way he does really could destroy him, and as one of the most powerful men in NYC, that destruction would be catastrophic.

Not to say that Bobby's losses wouldn't be the same. It's just that Bobby's coping mechanisms and self-destructive tendencies run in a different vein.

Beneath it all, secrets are stirring the pot and that's just GREAT.

I built a trivia app with about a 100 questions for this show and lots of others and so I wanted to share it with fans

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Billions | S01/E06 | The Deal

This episode is a lot of fun, but it's also a very important one for future complications.

While both Chuck and Axe don't want to settle and the backing and forthing to get there is very engaging, there's something that's better still.

Chuck loses Bryan Connerty's trust. I included the clip because it's enormously important. Even without being aware of what happens in later episodes, his reaction to Chuck's admission that they were going forward with the plea deal is a display of an absolutely foundation loss of faith in the man.

To pour salt in the open wound, Chuck doesn't simply say 'this is the way it is', he DISMISSES Connerty like a lapdog in such a brutal way it really shows us how Chuck views a lot of people around him. In this way, he's very different than Bobby: our billionaire capitalist shows unerring loyalty to everyone in the shop until loyalty or disrespect is shown to him. Then and only then do the knives come out.

Connerty wanted more time. That's it. Chuck wanted to end it because he wanted to protect his precious 'no lost cases' record.

Adding insult to injury, Chuck let his ego fuck the deal anyways. Mostly because he can't help but poke the bear, which is childish in and of itself. When both parties turn it into a pissing match, which IS fully understandable, it's just ridiculous. They might as well be five year olds at the playground daring each other to flinch.

I mean we knew the deal couldn't possibly go through, and the writers laid it up in the most perfect of ways, but still. Imagine being so childishly egotistical as to let ANOTHER manchild's words hurt your feelings, and in such a way that it borks a 1.9 BILLION dollar plea deal!

The sad thing is that even though Connerty's pleased with how things shake out and trust is restored, Chuck's ask at the end destroys it all over again.

If I had to choose between working for someone like Chuck or Bobby, right now? That choice is clear. I don't like Chuck Rhoades Jr at all. He's a petty lord holding power over his fiefdom while Bobby gives what he gets. I'd be a shit earner at Axe Cap, but I'd bust my ass because the loyalty angle is what makes it work for me.

Billions | S01/E05 | The Good Life

This is a really good episode because it shows how the two men of power in this show handle the stress in their life.

Axe's decision to start shuttering the multi-billion dollar dynamo that is his baby seems sensible as hell, especially after last episode's betrayal and the genuinely stressful situation that would be someone like Chuck howling for blood. And his decision is super sensible. Why have fuck around find out money if you're never going to fuck around and find out?

Hopping on the big boat with his wife and kids and just wandering the high seas as oceanic nomads is a perfect dream for sure.

On the flip, Chuck's darker side starts pushing him harder as the investigation into Axe Capital seems to hit nothing but hurdle after hurdle. Bobby and his people are self-insulated, each pretty much surrounded by a Great Wall of China that simply can't be torn down or crossed, and that's even after they found the farm connect. His weakness takes him to a BDSM club, and with Wendy's permission over the phone, they head on in together.

Displaying Chuck's weakness here is genius. It shows that even a man as powerful and influential as Chuck Rhoades isn't some kind of paragon.

There's a few great moments in this episode.

One is when Wendy goes to visit Bobby at his home. Chuck finding out from his FBI surveillance team and the staggering jealousy/doubt that fills him with is awesome. As in control and as powerful as Chuck is, he is pretty much only faking it a lot of the time. That, more even than his visit to the BDSM sex club, reveals the kernel of pure weakness at his center. It's the one thing that could really destroy him.

The second is when Bobby's true genius is unveiled ... just before the hammer that is Chuck Rhoades' legal machine comes crashing down on Dollar Bill.

Billions | S01/E04 | Short Squeeze

This was a great episode because it showed us precisely what kind of man both Axe AND Chuck are, and how similar they are.

It's always been apparent that Chuck and Axe are the kind of man that'll do whatever it takes to achieve their goals. They've shown us that more than a few times and we're only on episode 4. Bobby did what he did to YumTime specifically and solely to mess with Chuck Sr, Chuck went full ham on some guy who couldn't be assed to pick up his dog's shit. Same mentality: I'm going to get what I want and I'm not afraid to use my position to seriously fuck with the other guy.

While the example I chose for Chuck is pretty crass overall, it's meant to highlight the kind of man he is. He is SO bound to the law that any infraction enrages him. Where it's like that for Chuck, for Bobby, loyalty is his trigger. If you're disloyal to him, he'll burn you down to the ground and ice you out so hard it's like a new Ice Age has arrived.

Short Squeeze shows us what both men will do to someone close to them. Bobby burned a lifelong, childhood friend, Chuck not only cost his dad a huge amount of money, he made him suffer for the sheer arrogance in thinking that he was doing 'the right thing' by trying to mess with Bobby.

This was a great episode that showcases both men, and is precisely why later episodes and seasons reach a fever pitch. Neither man can back down, neither man can admit defeat.

It was really hard picking a clip, but in the end I went with the one I did because I absolutely love how Giamatti looks and sounds as he's making his dad pay for his sins.

Billions | S01/E03 | YumTime

Only a mid-episode, for me the best parts of it were when Chuck et al were ripping on Spyros, who is and always will be a complete tool and when Lara went at June over her scandalous Chapter 10 stuff.

I like Lara's character a lot. As I said before, she looks very sweet and nice, but she's just as deadly as Bobby, but she also has a meaner edge than her hubby. Where Bobby'd just strip you of your assets and burn your name and all you built into ashes, Lara'd kick you while you were down and make you cry about it.

Spyros is hilariously inept and he never fails to make me laugh. How he managed to become an SEC investigator of any ranking confuses the hell out of me. He's the epitome of someone who absolutely failed upwards.

The rest of the episode, where Bobby goes hard after Yumtime is good enough, I suppose. It shows that he's willing to go to extreme lengths to get at Chuck, but let's be honest: Chuck Rhoades Sr is by no means an innocent peach. He's as shady as any of the people that Chuck goes after and so kinda sorta deserves to be poked by someone who's richer and meaner.

Billions | S01/E02 | Naming Rights

This is a really fun episode for a lot of reasons, but the primary coolness is Terry Kinney as Bobby's fixer, Hall.

The man is extremely cool, terrifyingly effective and let's be honest, so quietly intimidating it seems like Terry was born to play the role. Very few side characters in any show captured my attention as much as Hall, and Showtime was smart to dole him out in small doses. Even if I hate them for it.

This episode also lays down to the trenchwork for the trajectory of the entire season as Bobby and Chuck wage their war across the financial landscape. The neat thing about this is that they're both very intelligent, very ruthless, but also (in their own ways) equally as capricious.

As aware as they are of each other's game, they can't help but do stupid things. In this particular episode, Bobby did the dumb thing by firing Victor Mateo the way he did. I can't remember very much about the fallout over this, but I do recollect enough to know that it causes him some problems down the road, and that's what I mean about capriciousness.

Bobby makes irrational decisions when he's angry or threatened or feeling otherwise not in control of the situation and as time goes on, those choices become equally erratic and damaging.

Chuck knows better, but can't help himself. His flaws are almost worse than Bobby because he doesn't give in to his darker wants and needs as often, and it makes him cruel, arrogant and reckless. The fallout from his poor decisions are just as damaging to him.

The irony here is that at the center of the both men sits Wendy, who I personally don't like all that much. But that's neither here nor there: they both have her ear, she gives them both the advice they need to hear, they both choose not to follow it, they both suffer for the sins of their collective arrogance.

The clip I included this time around showcases Hall's quiet intimidation, and I just love that scene so much.

EDIT: what's truly hilarious is that when I post a horror movie review, all I need is to put a brief 'viewer beware' warning for some of the gross stuff, but for a brief nudity scene, I have to go full 'hide all sight of it'. Gotta love weird censorship!

NOT just another “shows like billions” post.

I’m asking about a specific aspect of the show and if you know others that have it.

I’m a really empathetic person that thrives on collaboration and believes in the concept of things being “fair”.

At times, this blunts the parts of me that allow me to operate at a higher level and I find myself not feeling the level of motivation to get more that I need to have.

Shows like Billions remind me that I should always be looking for a win, always be fighting for more, always be looking for another way to increase my funds.

My values are too baked in for me to ever abandon them,
So shows like this just remind me to go harder, while still staying within my values.

What are some other shows like Billions I should check out for this same motivation?