r/AskALiberal • u/here-for-information • 17h ago
How do you view shame?
There's an interesting dynamic happening with the place of shame in our society, and I want a perspective from folks who aren't conservatives.
I went to Catholic school and grew up around conservatives, I like many others have been driven to the left by the absolute insanity of the modern Republicans, but I still feel that my basic mindset is somewhat different than the people I known find myself in political agreement with.
One interesting thing to me is the fact that I see so many left leaning people saying "we need to stop shaming," "shame is harmful," and things like that. Statements that put the feeling of shame into an entirely negative category. I seem to recall hearing some people say something to the effect of shame is a purely negative emotion and we shouldn't use it.
On the other hand, we have utterly shameless politicians and people criticizing them for their lack of shame.
In my view, Shame is actually a very important aspect of social cohesion. We can't and shouldn't make every negative behavior illegal, but we could shame people who behave in anti-social ways.
Billionaires for example should be made to feel shame when the companies they earn money off of don't have healthcare and good benefits for the workers but they buy another house.
A low stakes non-political example is that I'm a bit fat right now. I know it's not healthy for me. It's not the worst thing in the world but I know it's bad for me and I don't look as good as I did when I didn't have the weight on. I do feel some shame for that. When someone says "youre getting pretty big" they're right, and I don't see it as an entirely negative thing that they say that even if I or someone else feels bad about it.
I'm curious to hear your perspectives on shame. Mainly, am I missing something about the perspectives of people left of center on the utility of shame. Is it really all bad? Do you think its mostly bad and we shouldn't use it?
Do you think we need. Great Shame Renaissance to bring back some kind of embarrassment at leas for political types and powerful people who abuse that power.