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With discourse turning to the Apollo Trilogy yet again and a vocal group praising AA4 while condemning the 3DS games, I, as a vocal fan of DD and SoJ and someone who's... somewhat ambivalent towards AJ:AA, I wanted to stop and consider something regarding the cases of the game and the themes tying them together, and why in general I don't think I found them to be a satisfying package. In the past I've talked a lot about the cast as a whole and how I feel like the new characters are underutilized and how I just don't care for how Phoenix was used or his big dumb grudge match with Kristoph, so right now I'm mostly focused on the individual cases and specifically how they tend to be resolved.

Turnabout Trump: Like many players I actually find 4-1 to be a highlight for the game, and it has a resolution that sticks with you. It seems like the typical conclusion to an Ace Attorney case, the player presents evidence that seemingly decisively takes down the culprit, they have a breakdown and go to jail. It's only after the trial that Phoenix reveals that he knew the evidence was a forgery but let you present it because he knew Kristoph couldn't challenge it without implicating himself. I actually like this moment, and at the time it made me interested in the dynamic between Phoenix and Apollo. Apollo thinks he's getting a big Phoenix moment where he presents a major piece of evidence from an unlikely source to close out the trial, but instead all he's done is play along with Phoenix's plan to effectively frame an admittedly guilty man, and he gets so heated he actually punches the guy. Great stuff, wish literally any case after that had that energy from Apollo.

Turnabout Corner: The case proper kind of feels the least connected with the others in terms of the recurring theme of how one man can't always be expected to singlehandedly steer the case towards the correct solution with nothing but his own detective work with a mystery that feels more in line with others from earlier in the series, which might be because the concept was conceived prior to this game. The final evidence presented is more of what you'd expect of a minor detail coming back to close up the last hole in your case (the panties in the tailpipe) with the only real wrinkle being that Klavier kind of nudges you towards this. Personally I'm kind of mixed on this moment, I feel like it both takes the wind out of Apollo's sails in getting to actually solve a case without Phoenix guiding his hand while also making "nice guy" Klavier look like a bit of a dick if he seems to already know the answer before you, but that's neither here nor there really. Overall kind of a middle-of-the-road case, good mystery with mostly weak one-off characters (Guy Eldoon is cool) and an awkward place to introduce the supporting cast.

Turnabout Serenade: I have some mixed thoughts on 4-3. I actually like that it has a lot of moving parts, I like that Kristoph actually seems to be playing to win at once so you have to catch him on the backfoot once or twice, and Daryan is a serviceable enough bad guy that you want to take him down. But I agree with a lot of what's been said about the implausibility of the prosecution's case against the seemingly blind foreign child and the case kind of loses steam about halfway through once Lamiroir fingers the culprit. As a result the second half feels like there's just not enough mystery left to solve and I don't think the buildup is strong enough for the payoff of needing to get Macchi to confess on Daryan's behalf. Maybe if they had played into the idea of Daryan using his connections to mess with the investigation or we had more supporting witnesses to obfuscate things more than just dancing around the one obvious culprit it could have landed better. It's a weird mix of both too complex but also too quickly resolved to feel like you need to think outside the box. The end result is a final confrontation that's basically a less interesting version of how Phoenix took down the bad guy in 2-4.

Turnabout Succession: Hoo boy. I can't help but feel this might be the most divisive final case in the series. I've seen some people put this in their top cases of all time lists, and others put it right at the bottom. As for me... I feel like this is probably the most disappointing case if not actually the worst overall. It starts out pretty strong, I would say most of it up through the flashback trial is mostly without many major flaws beyond my continued issues with Apollo's lack of agency. But once we get to the MASON system segment... yeah, that whole bit feels like it's standing where a second investigation segment and first half of a final trial with Apollo should be. Focusing on the trials and how they relate to the others in this game though, I feel like once again the conclusion of Phoenix's last presents a great setup in how Phoenix is set up to think that he's got the unexpected winning evidence he needs only for it to be a trap to screw him and his client over. This is a cool concept, it parallels how Phoenix gets back at the guy who set him up seven years later by ironically using the same girl who was used against him in the past (now his own daughter) as well as another clueless attorney to get back at Kristoph. It'll sure be neat when we see Apollo learn about this, potentially making him question everyone in his life for their involvement in these incidents, right? I could go on about what a missed opportunity this is but I'd be getting off topic, so I'll just say the final trial segment sucks and you just present a couple pieces of evidence that just shows the guy you know is guilty might be guilty. There's no big gotcha, just "Haha, it's actually the jury that's gotcha, this was what the game was about apparently. Fuck you Apollo and fuck you player, you're not worth shit". I don't care how "epic" Kristoph's breakdown is, Phoenix vs some asshole who's already in prison is not a Pay Per View event I want to pay for.

In conclusion I think besides not being sold on the cast as a whole I feel like a lot of my negative feelings about the game come from a game where the story is built around unsatisfying finales shockingly not having a satisfying payoff. It's an interesting concept but they still needed some way to make it feel like Apollo and by extension the player got to flip the script and make a choice that changed how things play out, because I don't think switching POVs to a different character for one scene to press a button cuts it, especially when that happens after what was already supposed to be the emotional climax of the case. You can tell me I'm not big brained enough to see what this game is going for, but I'll generally take a mid case with a satisfying conclusion over a case with a lot of potential that runs out of steam before the finish line, even if I'd prefer one that's strong from start to finish.

Sorry if this is kind of rant-y, I just felt like I needed to get off my chest why this game doesn't do it for me and generally I find more to criticize looking back on it. If you feel it aged well that's fine too, but I definitely can't say I'll ever like it as much as the games that follow it.

So this is a really random question but I want to explain

I was born missing a couple of fingers and toes. I've always been biased toward fictional characters that are missing body parts because of that. I've been thinking about franchises I like that have those types of creatures or characters

Are there any Ace Attorney characters that are like that? Whether born missing body parts or amputees? I've played up to 6-5 and the Layton crossover but can't think of any off the top of my head. Are there any in the GAA or AAI series?

Thanks

Are there any fanficts out there that place characters from other franchises in the roles of the main ace attorney cast like one character playing Phoenix and another playing Miles? If so, let me know, please.

Is seeing my poor baby cry...

8 Apollo Justice, I’m sorry, but all the killers are terrible

7- yew carries this one

6-pretty good, but not my favorite missing a lot of good aspects

5-really good The first game where I like every killer

4-nothing beats the originals game but it’s just not my favorite

3- I love every killer the role really great

2- Matt Engarde

1-do I need to say more every character is amazing

Tgaa

2-great killers, but doesn’t beat the second game

1-once again do I do the say more

i finished the main series this summer and recently started investigations! very excited 😋😋😋😋😋

the first three tiers are favorites & characters i'm very fond of, and b is a mix of characters i like and ones i like as characters/think are well written. c & d dip into neutral-dislike and dislike respectively, and e is characters i hate. the last two are pretty self explanatory.

First of all, thank you so much for the amazing reception my Ace Attorney fangame has received!

Some people asked me if it was normal for the witness to have no sprite. The truth is, I currently don't have an artist to help create the characters or new backgrounds the game needs.

That's why I'm looking for people who might be interested in contributing to the project!

I'm not just looking for artists. I could also use some help from:

- Sprite and background artists

- Writers (I've already written the story, but it still needs some polishing and refinement)

- Spanish-to-English translators

- Dialogue editors and proofreaders

If you'd like to be part of the project, have some experience, and know a lot about Ace Attorney, feel free to send me a DM!

I'd really appreciate any help!

(I'm not looking for voice actors at the moment, sorry!)

I remembered that sometimes while playing the games, I made some wild guesses that were not true in the end, so I was wondering if that happend to any of you,if yes,I'd be curious!!

Ex. In TGAAC I thought that Pavlova was actually inspector Lestrade (they look the same first, second I remember that Pavlova wasn't in the credits at the end of the first game, when everyone tells how their life after the last case is going), and I was so sure of it until the end lol

Welcome back, Aristotle Means got mostly good with some flaws. Not too bad, but could use some improvements.

Anyway, for the sake of simplicity, i am going to use the same picture for The Phantom for this and next week's case since he is the culprit for two cases in a row rather than a picture of The Phantom and when he was disguised as Bobby Fulbright. But yeah, not much to say, but we have a international terrorist who killed Apollo's BFF. So was his plan to bomb the rocket and implicate Athena good enough today?

The First Turnabout

Turnabout Sisters

Turnabout Samurai

Turnabout Goodbyes

Rise from the Ashes

The Lost Turnabout

Reunion, and Turnabout

Turnabout Big Top

Farewell, My Turnabout

Turnabout Memories

The Stolen Turnabout

Recipe for Turnabout

Turnabout Beginnings

Bridge to the Turnabout

Turnabout Visitor

Turnabout Airlines

The Kidnapped Turnabout

Turnabout Reminiscence

Turnabout Ablaze

Turnabout Trigger

The Captive Turnabout

Turnabout Legacy

A Turnabout Forsaken

Turnabout for the Ages

Turnabout Trump

Turnabout Corner

Turnabout Serenade

Turnabout Succession

Turnabout Countdown

The Monsterous Turnabout

Turnabout Academy

I am aware that he wasn't really trying to "win" and his purpose was to test Phoenix Wright, but I can't get over how his prosecution career is a complete disaster.

In a nutshell, he:

> Starts off as a rookie prosecutor

> Decides to harass one specific defense lawyer by only taking cases that Phoenix has taken

> Has a 0% win rate

> Gets arrested for murder in the end

and Gumshoe REALLY hyped him up in the beginning of the game for some reason, even though it was basically his first case as a prosecutor😭

Holy shit. This is without a doubt the best case in the entire game. This case has so many positives the couple negatives I have about it get pushed out of the way. To make it fair, I will talk about my negatives first before I say all the positives I have about the case.

The Bad: I think they went a little overboard on trying to keep bringing up DL-6 non stop as well as fey clan history, it was important to the story and I understand that, but it felt like they were force this incident back into another case. Larry Butz involvement in this case barley gives us anything except to give wright time to recover and a piece of evidence that is only twice and it barley helps the case (in a way). Dragging out the case with the "trick locks" kinda felt a bit disappointing, Bikini is a bit annoying but she's at least tolerable.

The Good: Edgeworth taking over the case on the first day of trial was a crazy change and it kinda felt like a Mia situation where it was only once and you got to play as someone new for a change and see how they acted as defense attorneys along with the fact that Phoenix almost died after he ran across a "BURNING BRIDGE TRYING TO GO TROUGH LIKE HE HAD PLOT ARMOR". The music during the entire case was amazing as I was thrown in different moods, with "Fragrance of Dark Coffee" calm relaxing music in the village, and a brand new remixed pursuit theme when you reveal the final evidence. The evidence was all different and all had either a tiny detail that anyone could miss to the case, or it was something that was so important and out of pocket is was crazy. The constant twists in the game also got me shocked and caught me off guard with Dahlia Hawthorne coming back after her death to seek revenge on Maya/Mia "AGAIN" and how it went so wrong for her again because of maya channeling her and Dahlia getting sent back to the spirit world after she un-channeled from maya. And the biggest twist that the plot was for Dahlia to kill Maya and be channeled by Peril, but Misty was there and stoped her from being channeled, was about to kill Maya, then Godot kills her and the only reason why he caught caught was his vizor lights, the vizor itself hiding his scar, and him not being able to see red which made him miss the blood on the pillar.

Overall this was without a doubt the best case ever, I will post a full review of every case on YT eventually, but for now this is a number 1 in my opinion and I can't wait to move on to the Apollo Justice Trilogy.

S characters I really love and think are the best

A great characters who I love, but aren’t my favorite

B-

C- meh I don’t really care for them at all

D-

My goat bronco knight is the best

Richard Wellington Raiten Menimemo
And Bronco Knight Are a couple of my favorite characters as I love them a lot, but I’m also so disappointed that they couldn’t be a second or third chapter killer because I want to see so much more of them instead of being just in a tutorial case

Do you have a favorite first case** ***killer*

Note that I am now up to 126 replies, which is two more than when I did results 1.

I'll deal with the characters section, using the same "Best=3, Worst=1" system as before.

Which game portrays Apollo the best?

Best: Apollo Justice, score 2.23

Middle: Spirit of Justice, score 2.22

Worst: Dual Destinies, score 1.66

Which game portrays Phoenix the best?

Best: Apollo Justice, score 2.60

Middle: Spirit of Justice, score 1.85

Worst: Dual Destinies, score 1.67

Which game has the best prosecutor?

Best: Dual Destinies, score 2.67

MIddle: Apollo Justice, score 2.17

Worst: Spirit of Justice, score 1.21

Which game has the best one-off characters?

Best: Spirit of Justice, score 2.05

Middle: Dual Destinies, score 2.03

Worst: Apollo Justice, score 1.94

Only 28.6% of fans agreed with the criticism that "Athena should never have been introduced until Apollo's story was finished".

Up next is the "on various elements" part. Stay tuned!

What if we had another crossover before aa7? What would you like to see?

I think I'd like to see Phoenix Wright vs. Minamida Minamida: Ace Attorney vs Extraordinary Attorney, I'm watching the show and imagining it.

Case 1: Turnabout Isekai.

A reimagining of 5-dlc where Nahyuta was originally supposed to prosecute the whale, but gets killed by the Yakuza (the fanbase would cheer at Nahyuta dying lol) so Edgeworth has Phoenix prosecute the one case and Minami gets to defend the whale (since she's obsessed with them.)

Case 2: Turnabout Yakuza

Minami Namina (Alita Tiala in English,) who is Minamida's cousin gets accused of the murder of Nahyuta and Minamina has to defend her things Apollo keeps trying to get his brothers killer put away. He may not prosecute, but he would definitely be on their side.

I'm having a tough time getting through the trilogy and am wondering if it's worth it. I bought the trilogy a few weeks ago and have been steadily playing it, but there are parts I'm not a fan of that take the game down for me a lot. The trials aren't very realistic, with inconsistent rules, and the episode 5: Rise from the Ashes trial is taking forever. I like the characters and the current plot (besides episode 5), but I'm unsure if I want to continue. I get that I'm essentially asking an echo chamber, but is it worth playing? Does it get better later on?

Spoilers, be warned.

Currently playing Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth, and the constant laughter of Ms. Yew annoys me.. it’s over the top. and it’s too frequent. 🫠

currently on investigations. i already want to go to the next chapter. 😅

EDIT: OH MY GOD, what a twist LMAO