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r/TEFL • • Jul 26 '26

The TEFL Trap: The true cost of Teacher Record’s "free" TEFL Course

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Over the past eight days, this sub has been spammed with shills for Teacher Record - twenty of them and counting. Most of the posts have come from brand-new accounts - as fast as we ban them, they respawn. Luckily, our Automoderator has been programmed to shoot on sight, and none of their posts or comments have gone live. Since Teacher Record are not taking the hint that they are not welcome here, I've decided to give them the attention they so desperately want.

TEACHER RECORD'S "FREE" TEFL COURSE

Teacher Record's only selling point seems to be that they offer a TEFL course for free, and even that isn't enough to get genuine reviewers! Instead, they have to spam social media pretending to be satisfied customers of their own operation. Despite the influx of shills, not one of the posters has managed to sound like a genuine customer. Mind you, if they had been genuine customers, it's not a great reflection on the company that the only thing they could say about the course was that it was free:

Just wrapped up my free TEFL with TeacherRecord. It was honestly a nice feeling to finally check that off my list since I’ve been getting everything ready to teach abroad. I also noticed they have an ESL job board, which I hadn’t paid much attention to before. Has anyone here actually used it to land a job?

Hi as an aspiring ESL teacher it is necessary to get a TEFL Certification. For those who would like to get it free I'm recommending this website [redacted]. TeacherRecord is a leading ESL job board and TEFL certification platform trusted by hundreds of thousands of teachers worldwide. Try it! It's definitely worth it!

Word to the wise: Nothing in life is free, so I've done some digging to find out what Teacher Record is really up to. It turns out that their "free TEFL course" is nothing more than a front for their real operation - a shady recruitment agency.

The course is a loss leader. You get it for free, not because Teacher Record is nice but because you've given them something much more useful - your data, data that they will use to pimp you out to the schools that grease their well-oiled palms. How will they do this? Through their "massive database of authentic, verified ESL job openings" of course. But is their job board everything it's cracked up to be? Let's see...

LIMITED JOB BOARD

Teacher Record's home page brags that you can "Explore Teaching Offers Worldwide". Further down the page, in large font, they claim to be "The Leading ESL Job Board" with "30,000+ registered recruiters" and "70+ countries with roles as well as online opportunities".

On their About page, they say:

Job opportunities span China, Southeast Asia, Japan, South Korea, the Middle East, Europe, North America and other major regions globally.

Sounds good, right? More like misleading. Having trawled through EVERY SINGLE ADVERT on their site, I can tell you that the ONLY jobs listed are in China. Even the online jobs are for Chinese companies. Lying is not a good look. They should be upfront about their recruitment being limited to jobs in China rather than pretending they recruit worldwide.

ILLEGAL POSTINGS

To teach legally in China, you need a Z Visa, and the requirements of the Z Visa are a Bachelor's degree and a passport from one of the 'Big Seven' countries, namely, the UK, Ireland, the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa. Any reputable recruitment agency would know that. So why then is this (self-proclaimed) "top global vertical job board" with "16 years of professional experience in the ESL staffing industry" actively advertising illegal positions?

In multiple adverts, they claim that Bachelor's degrees are preferred but not required, and/or are actively seeking non-native English-speaking teachers. Note that if you are caught working illegally in China, you face being arrested, fined, jailed, deported, and/or banned from re-entry. And how much support do you think you'll get from Teacher Record? None. Scumbag recruiters like this should be avoided like the plague for your own safety.

DISCRIMINATORY POSTINGS

On their 'About' page, they say:

We feature a massive database of authentic, verified ESL job openings [...]

And yet, many of these "authentic, verified ESL job openings" are blatantly discriminatory. I trawled through all eight pages of listings and came across these three "delights" on multiple posts:

Requirement: native foreign teacher, white

Age:≤45 years old

If you are under 35 and are a female teacher who is interested in this job, please send your resume.

Clearly, you need to be white, young, and preferably female. But that's not all.

South Africans are being offered less than other 'Big Seven' nationals. In fact, I came across two postings for the same company, one aimed at South Africans and the other aimed at Americans, Britons and Canadians (other 'Big Seven' nationals didn't get a mention). The starting salary for South Africans was 12,000 CNY compared with a starting salary of 14,000 CNY for the other 'Big Seven' nationals. Nice. Unless you're South African, of course.

The online jobs are just as bad, particularly those aimed at Filipinos, with jobs offering the most pitiful hourly rates I've ever seen! No-one - and I mean NO-ONE - in this industry should be expected to work for US$2-4ph! Oh, and to add insult to injury, when you dig into the advert, you see that as the classes are only 25 mins long, you'll be earning a whole US$1-2 for your time... assuming of course, you get past the trial class, for which you'll be paid an absolutely disgusting US$0.50! Yes, 50 f*cking cents!

These schools are clearly racist and exploitative, and Teacher Record should be ashamed of themselves for allowing such discriminatory employers to advertise with them. But I guess money talks. With Filipino teachers being paid so little, the schools can probably afford to pay Teacher Record quite handsomely.

Meanwhile, native English-speakers (with the notable exception of South Africans) can earn US$18-26ph.

If a recruiter or employer is happy to discriminate against non-whites/non-natives/over 45s/[any other category], they are not someone you should work for or want to work for. Forewarned is forearmed.

LACK OF TRANSPARENCY

On their 'About' page Teacher Record says:

All listed roles are posted directly by legitimate educational institutions with clear and transparent salary detail.

I guess by 'clear' they meant 'as clear as mud'. As you scroll through the job board, you see a salary range for each job. But when you click on the link to find out more, you'll notice that the salary listed in the body of the advert or in the 'Job benefit/welfare' section is often considerably lower than what was advertised. I clicked on one job advertised at 20,000-26,000 CNY, and discovered that the real salary was actually 15,000 CNY (gross), which is quite a drop.

Other jobs have huge salary ranges, with one offering a monthly salary of 5,000-33,000 CNY. Reading further, one can assume that the lower end of that is for the non-native English-speaking teachers they plan to hire illegally. Yes, in addition to working illegally, you really will be worth less (a LOT less) than your native English-speaking counterparts.

Interestingly, a number of the available jobs are through an agency called Rancca. With the other adverts coming from biggish names, such as Meten, First Leap and EF, or organisations with names typical of Chinese companies, such as Meiyu Education Group or Happy English, Rancca stood out. So, of course I had to find out more. And I didn't have to look too far.

There in the small print at the bottom of Teacher Record's site was the following:

This website is operated and maintained by ShenZhen Federated Database Education Technology Co.,Ltd. Certain services are supported by its partner, Rancca Limited.

What's the betting Teacher Record tries really hard to push those particular jobs?

VERDICT

Recruiters are often shady, but Teacher Record is absolute pond scum. They offer you a shitty TEFL course for free for the sole purpose of collecting your data. They then use this data to match you to low-quality postings from the equally scummy employers that advertise on their site. If you take one of their jobs, you are likely to find yourself being discriminated against, grossly underpaid, and even working illegally. There is no reason on earth for anyone to (a) take this substandard TEFL course, or (b) accept a job through Teacher Record. Do yourself and the TEFL industry a favour and avoid them like the plague.


r/TEFL • • 13h ago

Kindy advice

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I had my first day today at the kindergarten I work for. I have no experience teaching kids this age, much less kids who have no comprehension of English. I’m also starting to think my personality isn’t suited for kindergarten as I’m more reserved, but wanted to put that factor aside and just give this a try. I had my first lesson today, and I feel like it was horrible. It was boring, and the kids didn’t willingly interact with me unless their Chinese teacher told them to, because they don’t know me (which I understand at that age). I’m sure many people have been in my position, so can you please share some advice? Or game ideas? Seriously! anything would help me right now.


r/TEFL • • 12h ago

I want to know if I’m the only fool who accepted an unpaid winter job

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Well .. the context is I’m currently in China, Hubei province and my salary is 14,000 rmb after tax. So far I’ve not had the full pay because I came mid August. Then for this month 2000 rmb was deducted because 1000 for rent deposit and 1000 as I took a bit of money in advance. My next full pay should be November. I don’t pay rent. But my winter is unpaid .. apparently I should be getting paid for the national holidays but as the schools closed no pay. I just want to know if anyone else has accepted such an offer or am I the only idiot ??


r/TEFL • • 18h ago

Is having an accent an issue?

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I recently got denied from SINE due to my accent. I am from the Caribbean but I do hold a British passport and speak standard English.

I am not that disappointed but I do feel weary that this may be a bigger hurdle than I thought to jump over.

Has anyone faced this problem before? Should I try a different country? Are there other agencies? (SINE said to try others). I do have an MA Education degree, and I’m doing a level 5 TEFL. Though I do not have teaching experience. I’ve spent the last five years being a supervisor, training and leading new staff. Which made me interested in teaching.

Any advice would help. Thank you!


r/TEFL • • 18h ago

Applied to Vietnam language centres over a month ago... No response?

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I'm desperate to move. I'm excited and keen. I can't wait to leave.

But VUS and ILA have not responded to my application - and ila strives to get in touch within two weeks... It's been a month now.....

I'm south African. With online English teaching experience and corporate experience. I thought it would be slightly faster. Is there a reason for this? Should I be worried?

Do you think it's possible to get a contract within a month? Is there a better way to apply other than on their websites?

I would love to be in Vietnam in Jan


r/TEFL • • 16h ago

TEFL with prior experience

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I’m looking at options for teaching English abroad. I have a Bachelor of Teaching and a Masters of Education (Management and Leadership). For the last 4.5 years I’ve been teaching casually at a private tertiary business school.

So, not English language teaching but a variety of teaching experience. I’m looking at getting a TEFL certificate as my partner and I are looking to travel in the next few years (mainly Southeast Asia). My thought is to give the TEFL a go, and if I like it, maybe upgrade to a CELTA later on down the track if I need it. I’m also looking at the TEFL.org 120 hour online course.

People with more experience than me in this - is this a good idea to do? Is TEFL.org reputable?


r/TEFL • • 1d ago

First foreign teacher at a Chinese private kindy in SZ, how do I negotiate benefits and form the curriculum?

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I am in a unique position where I was introduced by a friend to a family who owns kindergartens and wants to hire a foreigner teacher. With a degree and TESOL, I have legally worked in Taiwan as an after-school English teacher for almost a decade. I have more experience with 8/9 year olds, but I have also taught 5/6 year olds. I prefer teaching kids over adults, like to sing and make kids laugh, and love repetition... so I think I can do it.

The thing is they are completely new to this and don't know what's standard, and don't really know what they want. They keep asking me what I want. At a friend's suggestion, I asked for $25,000 since it gives me more room to negotiate. They also don't have a curriculum like my former school and basically asked me to come up with whatever I wanted to teach. They want me to work 3x a week full time and on the weekends with older kids. I said I couldn't do weekend mornings and they were cool with that. But I am struggling to figure out what the actual weekly schedule and workload should look like.

I want to make them happy, while also not underselling myself.

I know everyone is busy so I appreciate any advice, experience, and perspective.

I'm hoping to learn more about a realistic salary expectations, benefits to insist on, reasonable office and teaching hours, how to handle curriculum freedom, and what you wished you had negotiated before signing.

I want to be fair to them while also making sure I'm not setting a precedent that hurts future teachers. If all goes well with me, they will probably be more inclined to hire foreigners for their other kindys.

This week I will do a demo and hopefully discuss the contract.

Thank you in advance!​

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r/TEFL • • 1d ago

How *much* should I be explaining grammar?

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I (28F from the United States) just started teaching English at an academy in Spain. We have mostly adult students with a few teenagers mixed in.

Our lessons are pre-planned (which is great!), but sometimes they teach concepts in a very shallow way or in ways that do not make sense to the students, especially at higher levels. From reading other posts on this sub, I know that there is no way for native English speakers to know all of the grammar rules unless you studied linguistics or TEFL in college. However, I do want to be able to give my students as much information as possible and help them understand the concepts.

I brought the book "Grammar for English Language Teachers" with me to Spain, and it seems like it is a great resource. But my question is this: How much should we be explaining or understanding the concepts being taught? For example, I had a class of roughly B2 students the other day, and we were working with the active vs. passive tense in the past tense. They were struggling to understand how the sentences were formed, and I wrote a couple of examples on the board, but it was hard for me to fully explain the "why" of it.

Any tips/advice/suggestions? Since it is also mostly adults, I think they are more inclined to know the reasoning behind certain grammar usage/sentence structures as well.


r/TEFL • • 1d ago

Do I finish my masters or accept an early job opportunity?

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I'm currently doing a MA in education, I'm in the UK so the course finishes in august, I applied for a job last year and was told that I couldn't be accepted until the next interview cycle as I didn't have my degree on time. Now I've gotten my degree, I've been offered a job in Japan as an ALT in December.

I currently have a CELTA, a year as a teaching assistant, a BA in Japanese, TESOL and Linguistics and I taught as a TESOL teacher for a semester in Japan when I spent a year there as an exchange student and my Japanese is halfway between N4 and N3.

My future goal is to work in a university, I'm just not sure if education should be my focus now or if I should start my career now and do a MA in Japan where university is usually cheaper. I've not paid the course fees yet so I'm not too far in now.


r/TEFL • • 1d ago

Struggled to find a job in Saudi

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American who moved to Saudi and I was looking for a English teaching job while I was living with family there. I have a BA in English from a respected university and people who use to work in Saudi told me I could definitely find a job. No I dont have a CELTA I probably sound stupid for even trying to find a job without a CELTA . Truth be told I was in ab online course and dropped out before I could fail as advised by the instructors. It is what it is I dont want talk about why I failed or how…or if you know any stories of people who failed/dropped the course and took it again and succeeded and found a job that would be motivating !😄

With that being I was in the Jeddah/Makkah region and went to a couple spots and open interviews even in Madinah however the first question they asked me was oh do you have an iqama? Ermm no your supposed to give me the iqama (residency). There like ehhh its alot easier for us if you already have the residency card because of saudization its harder and more work for us and more money to hire a non saudi…

Parents said oh get a Masters.. guys whats Saudi looking like right now job market is a masters even worth it mind you I have no expirence 28 with a BA in English was in saudi searching for 7 months or so. Like even if I get my MA the job offers are gonna be rushing to me?? Secondly omg the thought of doing a masters in English sounds DREADFUL sorry no offense I like teaching its fun but I cant do a masters in English I just Cant

Whats your guys expirence in the job market? Any advice comments tips. Sorry I really needed to vent this out thanks

Edit: I was a teacher just wasnt teaching English was actually teaching arabic for almost a year iv dealt with students i have been a substitute im not new to this. No I haven’t had experience formally teaching English at a school/institution. I have informally taught people causal practice speaking rules. I hated the CELTA format it was funny cause in the live classes the students said I was helpful but I failed ofcourse cause idk the methods or whatever


r/TEFL • • 3d ago

Taiwan vs South Korea: the honest truth

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Hello! I have spent many years in the ESL game enough to be considered experienced.

  1. Taiwanese recruiters, whether for public or cram schools are dishonest and do not tell you what all the hiring process entails. Public schools often demand additional interview panels while cram schools prefer in country applicants so they can insist on in person interviews and unpaid teaching demonstrations. Both almost always want self-introduction and teaching demo videos. Korean recruiters aren't always reliable but it is a very straightforward process of application, video interviews, and contracts often within hours or 1-2 days.
  2. In Taiwan illegal practices are rampant! In South Korea you travel to Korea with your work visa granted and are on payroll from day one so every moment you are on campus you are earning money. However in Taiwan unpaid mandatory orientation and training are the norm and you don't earn a cent until you actually begin teaching. Please give me Korea's PAID baptism by H*ll fire and "monkey see, monkey do" training any day!
  3. Taiwanese ESL jobs on the whole are much easier and less demanding far less demanding than Korean ESL jobs. Even Korean toddlers are being submerged in paid tutoring and you certainly better have your act ALL THE WAY together quick, fast, and in a hurry to silently endure sky high expectations, long working hours, unspoken obligations, and rigid hierarchial work culture. But contrast that to Taiwan where you are observed monthly and your pay is based on how well you perform like a wind-up toy.
  4. Discrimination is much more blatant in Taiwan than in Korea and I honestly feel sorry for a certain demographic of non native English speakers who are prominent in this job market. As an experienced US Passport holder I have openly been denied job placements, rejected based on 10 seconds of self-introduction video, and ridiculously low balled. In Korea, discrimination does occur, but it is more so crooked business owners practicing passport hierarchy than racial bias.
  5. Pay is much more stable in Korea because every position is salaried. Your gross salary is your salary for the entire contract length and your take home pay is roughly the same every single month minus mandatory deductions which makes financial stability and saving very easy for the savvy. On the other hand the majoriry of ESL jobs in Taiwan are paid based on teaching hours only...while you are still expected to lesson prep and prepare/attend special events.

Many will disagree with me and I don't mean to offend anyone, however, this has been my experience.


r/TEFL • • 2d ago

GTUnion: scam or not?

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I was checking the TEFL job listings and found a very promising listing from GTUnion boasting that they offer many job openings in China. The listing looked legit, but the email I received was very unprofessional and full of short sentences with improper capitalization that were riddled with grammar mistakes ("when do u plan to come?" "you can add My Wechat"). Is this a legitimate organization, or should I not bother?


r/TEFL • • 4d ago

Taiwan cultural sensitivity

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Any long term EFL teachers from Taiwan? Do you have any advice on cultural faux pas there? I'm tasked with writing a report on cultural sensitivities to be aware of there and would appreciate any inputs you may have - small or otherwise.


r/TEFL • • 4d ago

APTIS Advanced/C1 exam - anyone any experience in teaching it?

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A student, B2+, needs to get the C1 title before January. He wants to do Aptis as he is familiar with it.

Need to know how likely this is with 1.5h of classes per week and 3-4h of self study.

Any recommendations on materials to check and use?

I am heavily experienced in Cambridge.

Any advice is welcome.


r/TEFL • • 4d ago

Hong Kong EDB NET Scheme vs. NET Grant Agencies - Non-English Major Qualification Questions

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Hi everyone,

I am a US citizen with over 10 years of teaching experience currently looking to relocate to Hong Kong for a Primary English teaching position. I hold a non-English Bachelor's degree and a 120-hour TEFL certificate.

I am trying to map out my strategy and would appreciate some insight into the current hiring reality:

  1. Centralized EDB NET Scheme & the English Major Rule: I understand that the Education Bureau has strictly tightened entry criteria for new primary NETs, requiring an undergraduate degree majoring in English (or an English-focused higher degree). Given that my Bachelor's is in a completely unrelated subject, is it correct that I am automatically disqualified from the centralized direct-hire EDB scheme?
  2. Alternative Routes (NET Grant vs. International vs. Private Schools): Since the centralized pool might be locked out, how viable is my profile (unrelated BA + TEFL + 10+ years experience) for securing a visa and a solid package via third-party NET Grant agencies, local private schools, or International Schools?
  3. The Online PGCE + Deferred Practicum Strategy: It is a big investment but do you guys think this might be necessary to strengthen my profile and secure a teaching job in Hong Kong?

I am fully determined to make this transition and am absolutely willing to invest in a PGCE if it is the necessary tool to unlock the market and secure a competitive salary tier. Any insight would be incredibly appreciated!


r/TEFL • • 5d ago

Is Language Point Training a legit course?

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Sorry if this is a stupid question. Mostly doing this to assure my parent's fears. For context I was part of the CELTA EC English language centre before it went bankrupt, still working on the refund. I was wondering if this course: https://www.languagepointtraining.com/online-trinity-cert-tesol is good and legit.

Thanks for thos who answer in advance.


r/TEFL • • 6d ago

Do I need C1/C2 (english proficiency certificate) to teach in Vietnam, if I have a Canadian passport and Canadian education?

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I was not born in Canada but I lived there for over 15 years. English is my second language, I'm bilingual.

I already finished my TEFL, and my university degree is from Canada.

Some people I know who teach english in Vietnam had to do C2 because English is not the official language in their countries. Do I also need to do that ?


r/TEFL • • 6d ago

CELTA teacher moving from Australia to Singapore on dependant pass

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Hello,
My partner and I are considering moving from Australia to Singapore to live close to parents. I am a full time professional who will get an Employment pass. My wife is a Elicos (English Language Intensive Courses for Overseas Students) teacher who is Celta qualified. My worry is after moving what if she struggles to find schools/employers who are willing to apply for a work permit for her. How common is it for international / language schools to give a job to foreign teachers and also apply for their work permit? Any feedback will be really appreciated.


r/TEFL • • 6d ago

Need BIG help

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Hello all,

I have recently changed careers to teaching ESL so although I’m older, I’m fairly inexperienced.

I’m currently working in Central Asia. The school I’m at has just opened (a little over a month ago) and is using a curriculum that is new to the students and way above every grade level’s ability. I am REALLY STRUGGLING and honestly at a loss for what to do.

Part of me wants to give up and just go home (I’m also dealing with tons of other problems - landlord, water, allergy, social, family, you name it, the list goes on and on…) but most of me wants to stay and figure it out! I really love the students and feel like I’m massively failing them sometimes.

At the moment it just feels absolutely impossible to get all of the students at the level they need to be to complete the required textbooks for this school year.

Any advice at all is greatly appreciated.

Thank you all so much, y’all are truly inspirational.


r/TEFL • • 6d ago

How to teach Christmas carols to kindergarten students

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Hi everyone! This is my first year teaching kindergarten, I've taught elementary and secondary for 3 years and have taught JHS before as well, but I've never taught in a formal school setting where a Christmas event takes place. Just for context, I'm Mexican teaching in Mexico.

I was asked by my principal to prepare the K1 (3yo), K2 (4yo) and K3 (5yo) children with Christmas carols for the Christmas event. I've never taught a song before, let alone work with very young children. I was thinking of Deck the Halls for K1, Jingle Bells for K2 and Joy to the World for K3. She told me the previous teacher would start in October to have enough time to prepare them with the pronunciation. Any advice and help is very much appreciated!!


r/TEFL • • 7d ago

How are you using any English teaching certifications?

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I work in hospitality, specifically in training and development and I heard there are business ESL classes etc. this is kind of my goal, I don’t know how realistic it is. I’m curious, what have you been able to do with your certs? I was looking into TESOL.

Also, in a relationship with someone from South America, part of me getting a cert for this would be to work internationally if I had to move there after we get married.

Tia!


r/TEFL • • 8d ago

teaching english in brazil?

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recently applied for a fubright but in the likely case that that doesn't work out, i'd like to apply for other ways to get paid to teach english in brazil. i have a bachelor's degree and a tefl certificate from a community college. i've fallen in love with brazil and would liek to live and work there for some amount of time (don't worry, i know salaries and different and living in brazil is different than visiting. i'm incredibly aware of this lol). anyone know of any programs that could match what i'm looking for?


r/TEFL • • 8d ago

Weekly r/TEFL Quick Questions Thread

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Use this thread to ask questions that don't deserve their own thread on the subreddit. Before you do that, though, use the search bar and read through our extensive wiki to see if your question has already been answered. Remember that subreddit rules still apply here.


r/TEFL • • 8d ago

Has anyone here used teaching kindy in China as a stepping stone?

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As the title states, I’d like to try teaching in China but I’m really only qualified to teach kindergarten. I have a bachelors in IT and my TEFL and a few years doing engineering for my government but no direct teaching experience.

I’d like to work towards and actual teaching license soon but first I’d like to know anyone’s journey with using kindergarten as a stepping stone.